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Plato, Ion, 534d

nanin order that we who hear them may know that it is not they who utter these words of great price, when they are out of their wits, but that it is God himself who speaks and addresses us through them. A convincing proof of what I say is the case of Tynnichus, the Chalcidian, who had never composed a single poem in his life that could deserve any mention, and then produced the paean which is in everyone’s mouth, almost the finest song we have, simply—as he says himself— an invention of the Muses. For the god, as it seems to me

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1. Plato, Apology of Socrates, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

22c. that what they composed they composed not by wisdom, but by nature and because they were inspired, like the prophets and givers of oracles; for these also say many fine things, but know none of the things they say; it was evident to me that the poets too had experienced something of this same sort. And at the same time I perceived that they, on account of their poetry, thought that they were the wisest of men in other things as well, in which they were not. So I went away from them also thinking that I was superior to them in the same thing in which I excelled the public men.Finally then I went to the hand-workers.
2. Plato, Cratylus, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

396d. Hermogenes. Indeed, Socrates, you do seem to me to be uttering oracles, exactly like an inspired prophet. Socrates. Yes, Hermogenes, and I am convinced that the inspiration came to me from Euthyphro the Prospaltian. For I was with him and listening to him a long time early this morning. So he must have been inspired, and he not only filled my ears but took possession of my soul with his superhuman wisdom. So I think this is our duty:
3. Plato, Euthyphro, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

12e. Euthyphro. This then is my opinion, Socrates, that the part of the right which has to do with attention to the gods constitutes piety and holiness, and that the remaining part of the right is that which has to do with the service of men. Socrates. I think you are correct, Euthyphro;
4. Plato, Ion, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

534c. as you do about Homer—but by a divine dispensation, each is able only to compose that to which the Muse has stirred him, this man dithyrambs, another laudatory odes, another dance-songs, another epic or else iambic verse; but each is at fault in any other kind. For not by art do they utter these things, but by divine influence; since, if they had fully learnt by art to speak on one kind of theme, they would know how to speak on all. And for this reason God takes away the mind of these men and uses them as his ministers, just as he does soothsayers and godly seers
5. Plato, Laws, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

6. Plato, Meno, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

99c. This is the means which statesmen employ for their direction of states, and they have nothing more to do with wisdom than soothsayers and diviners; for these people utter many a true thing when inspired, but have no knowledge of anything they say. Men. I daresay that is so. Soc. And may we, Meno, rightly call those men divine who, having no understanding, yet succeed in many a great deed and word? Men. Certainly. Soc. Then we shall be right in calling those divine of whom
7. Plato, Phaedrus, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

242c. that usually comes to me came—it always holds me back from something I am about to do—and I thought I heard a voice from it which forbade my going away before clearing my conscience, as if I had committed some sin against deity. Now I am a seer, not a very good one, but, as the bad writers say, good enough for my own purposes; so now I understand my error. How prophetic the soul is, my friend! For all along, while I was speaking my discourse, something troubled me, and as Ibycus says
8. Plato, Philebus, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

66b. Soc. Second, then, comes proportion, beauty, perfection, sufficiency, and all that belongs to that class. Pro. Yes, so it appears. Soc. And if you count mind and wisdom as the third, you will, I prophesy, not wander far from the truth. Pro. That may be. Soc. And will you not put those properties fourth which we said belonged especially to the soul—sciences, arts, and true opinions they are called—
9. Plato, Republic, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

10. Plato, Symposium, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

11. Plato, Theaetetus, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

142c. Megara ? EU. He was in a hurry to get home; for I begged and advised him to stop, but he would not. So I went along with him, and as I was coming back I thought of Socrates and wondered at his prophetic gift, especially in what he said about him. For I think he met him a little before his own death, when Theaetetus was a mere boy, and as a result of acquaintance and conversation with him, he greatly admired his qualities. When I went to Athens he related to me the conversation
12. Thucydides, The History of The Peloponnesian War, 8.1 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

13. Xenophon, Apology, 30 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

14. Xenophon, Symposium, 4.48-4.49 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

4.48. Well, these gods, omniscient and omnipotent, feel so friendly toward me that their watchfulness over me never lets me out of their ken night or day, no matter where I am going or what business I have in view. They know the results also that will follow any act; and so they send me as messengers omens of sounds, dreams, and birds, and thus indicate what I ought to do and what I ought not to do. And when I do their bidding, I never regret it; on the other hand, I have before now disregarded them and have been punished for it. 4.49. None of these statements, said Socrates , is incredible. But what I should like very much to know is how you serve them to keep them so friendly. A very economical service it is, I declare! responded Hermogenes. I sound their praises,—which costs nothing; I always restore them part of what they give me; I avoid profanity of speech as far as I can; and I never wittingly lie in matters wherein I have invoked them to be my witnesses. Truly, said Socrates , if it is conduct like this that gives you their friendship, then the gods also, it would seem, take delight in nobility of soul! Such was the serious turn given to the discussion of this topic.
15. Aristotle, Eudemian Ethics, None (4th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

16. Cicero, On Divination, 1.67 (2nd cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

1.67. illud, quod volumus, expressum est, ut vaticinari furor vera soleat. A/dest, adest fax óbvoluta sánguine atque íncendio! Múltos annos látuit; cives, férte opem et restínguite. Deus inclusus corpore humano iam, non Cassandra loquitur. Iámque mari magnó classis cita Téxitur; exitium éxamen rapit; A/dveniet, fera vélivolantibus Návibus complebít manus litora. Tragoedias loqui videor et fabulas. 1.67. However, the point which I wish to press, that true prophecies are made during frenzy, has found expression in the following lines:It comes! it comes! that bloody torch, in fireEnwrapped, though hid from sight these many years!Bring aid, my countrymen, and quench its flames!It is not Cassandra who next speaks, but a god in human form:Already, on the mighty deep is builtA navy swift that hastes with swarms of woe,80ºIts ships are drawing nigh with swelling sails,And bands of savage men will fill our shores. [32]

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aeschylus Kowalzig (2007) 6
altar Levison (2009) 155
animal Levison (2009) 155
apollo Levison (2009) 155; Mikalson (2010) 126
argos,reconfiguring myths and rituals of the argive plain Kowalzig (2007) 6
aristotle,on daimones Mikalson (2010) 126
athenian empire,and thriving local polis-world Kowalzig (2007) 6
athens,khoroi of Kowalzig (2007) 6
castalian spring Levison (2009) 155
choregia,and local identity Kowalzig (2007) 6
choregia Kowalzig (2007) 6
chorus,khoros,and civic identity Kowalzig (2007) 6
chorus,khoros,and social integration Kowalzig (2007) 6
chorus,khoros,and socialization Kowalzig (2007) 6
chorus,khoros,image of community Kowalzig (2007) 6
chresmoidoi Mikalson (2010) 125, 126
chresmologoi Mikalson (2010) 125
creation,creation of cult,cultic Levison (2009) 155
daimones,daimonion of socrates Mikalson (2010) 125
daimones,of plato Mikalson (2010) 32
daimones,of the dead Mikalson (2010) 32
dead,the,as daimones Mikalson (2010) 32
dead,the,service to Mikalson (2010) 32
dearness to god,and good speech Mikalson (2010) 32
dearness to god,and oaths Mikalson (2010) 32
dearness to god,and service to gods Mikalson (2010) 32
dedications,and service to gods Mikalson (2010) 32
delphi Levison (2009) 155
divination,and dearness to gods Mikalson (2010) 32
divination,and service to gods Mikalson (2010) 32
divination Mikalson (2010) 125, 126
dodona Levison (2009) 155
dreams,and divination Mikalson (2010) 125
dreams Levison (2009) 155; Mikalson (2010) 125
eudaimonia Mikalson (2010) 9
funerary,local Kowalzig (2007) 6
funerary,song integral to/ context for performance of song Kowalzig (2007) 6
good speech,and dearness to gods Mikalson (2010) 32
good speech,and service to gods Mikalson (2010) 32
greece Levison (2009) 155
heroes,as deities,service to Mikalson (2010) 32
identity,forged in performances of myth and ritual Kowalzig (2007) 6
inspiration,and agency Pillinger (2019) 10
inspiration Levison (2009) 155
jew/jewish,literature/ authors Levison (2009) 155
lack of respect for gods'" '162.0_9.0@proper respect for gods Mikalson (2010) 9
law,god's" '151.0_155.0@mystery Levison (2009) 155
literature Levison (2009) 155
magic,persian Mikalson (2010) 32
manteis,and service to gods Mikalson (2010) 32
manteis,inspired Mikalson (2010) 126
manteis,socrates as Mikalson (2010) 125
manteis Mikalson (2010) 125, 126
mantis Pillinger (2019) 10
maurizio,lisa Pillinger (2019) 10
mazzoldi,sabina Pillinger (2019) 10
mousike,music,arkadian Kowalzig (2007) 6
nagy,gregory Pillinger (2019) 10
oaths,and dearness to gods Mikalson (2010) 32
oaths,and service to gods Mikalson (2010) 32
oracles Levison (2009) 155; Mikalson (2010) 125
poetry,and prophecy Pillinger (2019) 10
poets and poetry,and divine inspiration Mikalson (2010) 126
polis,in the early fifth century Kowalzig (2007) 6
polybius,on mousike Kowalzig (2007) 6
prayers,and service to gods Mikalson (2010) 32
priestess Levison (2009) 155
prophecy,and poetry Pillinger (2019) 10
prophecy,oracular agency Pillinger (2019) 10
prophets,seers vs sign-readers Pillinger (2019) 10
pythia at delphi Levison (2009) 155
religion,greek,general considerations Kowalzig (2007) 6
religion,greek,local vs. panhellenic Kowalzig (2007) 6
religion,greek,universal expressions of Kowalzig (2007) 6
sacrifices,and service to gods Mikalson (2010) 32
sanctuaries,and service to gods Mikalson (2010) 32
service to gods'" "162.0_9.0@service to gods'" Mikalson (2010) 32
service to gods',and good speech" '171.0_10.0@ford,andrew Mikalson (2010) 32
service to gods',and oaths" Mikalson (2010) 32
slaves and slavery,serving the gods as Mikalson (2010) 32
song-culture,and local identity Kowalzig (2007) 6
song-culture,and society Kowalzig (2007) 6
song-culture,forum for debate of contemporary issues Kowalzig (2007) 6
song-culture Kowalzig (2007) 6
spirit,characterizations as,breath (life itself) Levison (2009) 155
spirit,effects of,ecstasy/frenzy Levison (2009) 155
spirit,modes of presence,possessing Levison (2009) 155
spirit,modes of presence,receiving of Levison (2009) 155
strabo Levison (2009) 155
struck,peter Pillinger (2019) 10
temple Levison (2009) 155
theoria,choral polis-theoria' Kowalzig (2007) 6
uates Pillinger (2019) 10
war,success in,and chresmologoi Mikalson (2010) 125, 126
war,success in,and manteis Mikalson (2010) 125, 126