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Xenophon, Memoirs, 1.1.1


πολλάκις ἐθαύμασα τίσι ποτὲ λόγοις Ἀθηναίους ἔπεισαν οἱ γραψάμενοι Σωκράτην ὡς ἄξιος εἴη θανάτου τῇ πόλει. ἡ μὲν γὰρ γραφὴ κατʼ αὐτοῦ τοιάδε τις ἦν· ἀδικεῖ Σωκράτης οὓς μὲν ἡ πόλις νομίζει θεοὺς οὐ νομίζων, ἕτερα δὲ καινὰ δαιμόνια εἰσφέρων· ἀδικεῖ δὲ καὶ τοὺς νέους διαφθείρων.I have often wondered by what arguments those who drew up the indictment against Socrates could persuade the Athenians that his life was forfeit to the state. The indictment against him was to this effect: Socrates is guilty of rejecting the gods acknowledged by the state and of bringing in strange deities: he is also guilty of corrupting the youth.


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1. Homer, Iliad, 16.233-16.235 (8th cent. BCE - 7th cent. BCE)

16.233. /and himself he washed his hands, and drew flaming wine. Then he made prayer, standing in the midst of the court, and poured forth the wine, looking up to heaven; and not unmarked was he of Zeus, that hurleth the thunderbolt:Zeus, thou king, Dodonaean, Pelasgian, thou that dwellest afar, ruling over wintry Dodona,—and about thee dwell the Selli 16.234. /and himself he washed his hands, and drew flaming wine. Then he made prayer, standing in the midst of the court, and poured forth the wine, looking up to heaven; and not unmarked was he of Zeus, that hurleth the thunderbolt:Zeus, thou king, Dodonaean, Pelasgian, thou that dwellest afar, ruling over wintry Dodona,—and about thee dwell the Selli 16.235. /thine interpreters, men with unwashen feet that couch on the ground. Aforetime verily thou didst hear my word, when I prayed: me thou didst honour, and didst mightily smite the host of the Achaeans; even so now also fulfill thou for me this my desire. Myself verily will I abide in the gathering of the ships
2. Homer, Odyssey, 14.327-14.328, 19.296-19.297 (8th cent. BCE - 7th cent. BCE)

3. Aristophanes, Birds, 1073 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

1073. λαμβάνειν τάλαντον, ἤν τε τῶν τυράννων τίς τινα
4. Aristophanes, Clouds, 367, 423, 265 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

265. λαμπρός τ' Αἰθὴρ σεμναί τε θεαὶ Νεφέλαι βροντησικέραυνοι
5. Plato, Apology of Socrates, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

24b. this now or hereafter, you will find that it is so.Now so far as the accusations are concerned which my first accusers made against me, this is a sufficient defence before you; but against Meletus, the good and patriotic, as he says, and the later ones, I will try to defend myself next. So once more, as if these were another set of accusers, let us take up in turn their sworn statement. It is about as follows: it states that Socrates is a wrongdoer because he corrupts the youth and does not believe in the gods the state believes in, but in other
6. Plato, Euthyphro, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

3b. Socrates. Absurd things, my friend, at first hearing. For he says I am a maker of gods; and because I make new gods and do not believe in the old ones, he indicted me for the sake of these old ones, as he says. Euthyphro. I understand, Socrates; it is because you say the divine monitor keeps coming to you. So he has brought the indictment against you for making innovations in religion, and he is going into court to slander you, knowing that slanders on such subjects are readily accepted by the people. Why, they even laugh at me and say I am crazy
7. Xenophon, Apology, 10 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

8. Xenophon, Memoirs, 1.1.2-1.1.9 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

1.1.2. First then, that he rejected the gods acknowledged by the state — what evidence did they produce of that? He offered sacrifices constantly, and made no secret of it, now in his home, now at the altars of the state temples, and he made use of divination with as little secrecy. Indeed it had become notorious that Socrates claimed to be guided by the deity: That immanent divine something, as Cicero terms it, which Socrates claimed as his peculiar possession. it was out of this claim, I think, that the charge of bringing in strange deities arose. 1.1.3. He was no more bringing in anything strange than are other believers in divination, who rely on augury, oracles, coincidences and sacrifices. For these men’s belief is not that the birds or the folk met by accident know what profits the inquirer, but that they are the instruments by which the gods make this known; and that was Socrates ’ belief too. 1.1.4. Only, whereas most men say that the birds or the folk they meet dissuade or encourage them, Socrates said what he meant: for he said that the deity gave him a sign. Many of his companions were counselled by him to do this or not to do that in accordance with the warnings of the deity: and those who followed his advice prospered, and those who rejected it had cause for regret. 1.1.5. And yet who would not admit that he wished to appear neither a knave nor a fool to his companions? but he would have been thought both, had he proved to be mistaken when he alleged that his counsel was in accordance with divine revelation. Obviously, then, he would not have given the counsel if he had not been confident that what he said would come true. And who could have inspired him with that confidence but a god? And since he had confidence in the gods, how can he have disbelieved in the existence of the gods? 1.1.6. Another way he had of dealing with intimate friends was this: if there was no room for doubt, he advised them to act as they thought best; but if the consequences could not be foreseen, he sent them to the oracle to inquire whether the thing ought to be done. 1.1.7. Those who intended to control a house or a city, he said, needed the help of divination. For the craft of carpenter, smith, farmer or ruler, and the theory of such crafts, and arithmetic and economics and generalship might be learned and mastered by the application of human powers; 1.1.8. but the deepest secrets of these matters the gods reserved to themselves; they were dark to men. You may plant a field well; but you know not who shall gather the fruits: you may build a house well; but you know not who shall dwell in it: able to command, you cannot know whether it is profitable to command: versed in statecraft, you know not whether it is profitable to guide the state: though, for your delight, you marry a pretty woman, you cannot tell whether she will bring you sorrow: though you form a party among men mighty in the state, you know not whether they will cause you to be driven from the state. 1.1.9. If any man thinks that these matters are wholly within the grasp of the human mind and nothing in them is beyond our reason, that man, he said, is irrational. But it is no less irrational to seek the guidance of heaven in matters which men are permitted by the gods to decide for themselves by study: to ask, for instance, Is it better to get an experienced coachman to drive my carriage or a man without experience? Cyropaedia I. vi. 6. Is it better to get an experienced seaman to steer my ship or a man without experience? So too with what we may know by reckoning, measurement or weighing. To put such questions to the gods seemed to his mind profane. In short, what the gods have granted us to do by help of learning, we must learn; what is hidden from mortals we should try to find out from the gods by divination: for to him that is in their grace the gods grant a sign.
9. New Testament, Acts, 17.18-17.20, 17.32 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

17.18. Some of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers also encountered him. Some said, "What does this babbler want to say?"Others said, "He seems to be advocating foreign demons," because he preached Jesus and the resurrection. 17.19. They took hold of him, and brought him to the Areopagus, saying, "May we know what this new teaching is, which is spoken by you? 17.20. For you bring certain strange things to our ears. We want to know therefore what these things mean. 17.32. Now when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked; but others said, "We want to hear you yet again concerning this.
10. Plutarch, Pericles, 32.2 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

32.2. The people accepted with delight these slanders, and so, while they were in this mood, a bill was passed, on motion of Dracontides, that Pericles should deposit his accounts of public moneys with the prytanes, and that the jurors should decide upon his case with ballots which had lain upon the altar of the goddess on the acropolis. But Hagnon amended this clause of the bill with the motion that the case be tried before fifteen hundred jurors in the ordinary way, whether one wanted to call it a prosecution for embezzlement and bribery, or malversation.
11. Diogenes Laertius, Lives of The Philosophers, 2.40 (3rd cent. CE - 3rd cent. CE)

2.40. The affidavit in the case, which is still preserved, says Favorinus, in the Metroon, ran as follows: This indictment and affidavit is sworn by Meletus, the son of Meletus of Pitthos, against Socrates, the son of Sophroniscus of Alopece: Socrates is guilty of refusing to recognize the gods recognized by the state, and of introducing other new divinities. He is also guilty of corrupting the youth. The penalty demanded is death. The philosopher then, after Lysias had written a defence for him, read it through and said: A fine speech, Lysias; it is not, however, suitable to me. For it was plainly more forensic than philosophical.


Subjects of this text:

subject book bibliographic info
acknowledge (= believe in) Versnel (2011) 543
acts of the apostles Potter Suh and Holladay (2021) 614
anastasis,female deity Potter Suh and Holladay (2021) 614
anaxagoras,and religion Tor (2017) 43
anaxagoras Edelmann-Singer et al (2020) 46
andokides Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
aristophanes,birds Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
aristophanes,lysistrata Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
asebeia Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
atheism Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103; Versnel (2011) 556
athens,ancient views of Potter Suh and Holladay (2021) 614
athens,laws and prescriptions Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
athens,lukes description Potter Suh and Holladay (2021) 614
athens Dijkstra and Raschle (2020) 48
belief,believe,lack of Versnel (2011) 556
burnyeat,myles f. Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
chariton Potter Suh and Holladay (2021) 614
conflicts,religious Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
daemonology Luck (2006) 207
delphi,sanctuary and oracle at Luck (2006) 321
diodorus siculus Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
diogoras of melos Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
dionysus,diopeithes,decree of Tor (2017) 43
divination Luck (2006) 321, 322, 323, 324
dodona,oracle at Luck (2006) 324
egypt Luck (2006) 324
eleusinian mysteries Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
epictetus Potter Suh and Holladay (2021) 614
epirus,sanctuary of zeus at Luck (2006) 324
execution Dijkstra and Raschle (2020) 48
galtung,johan Dijkstra and Raschle (2020) 48
gods (egyptian,greek,and roman),zeus Edelmann-Singer et al (2020) 46
heraclitus Luck (2006) 321
impiety Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
impiety (asebeia),atheism Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
impiety (asebeia) Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
john chrysostom Dijkstra and Raschle (2020) 48
lysias (orator) Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
magic,magicians Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
marcus aurelius Potter Suh and Holladay (2021) 614
mcpherran,mark l. Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
meletus Edelmann-Singer et al (2020) 46
minority,immigration of Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
musonius rufus Potter Suh and Holladay (2021) 614
nostradamus,m. Luck (2006) 321
parker,robert c. t. Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
philosophy Edelmann-Singer et al (2020) 46
pigeons,the Luck (2006) 324
pindar Edelmann-Singer et al (2020) 46
plato,laws Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
plato Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
polis Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
prohibition Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
religion,greek,and philosophy,evidence of social backlash' Tor (2017) 43
religion,greek,and philosophy Tor (2017) 43
religious authority,behavior Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
religious authority,communities Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
religious authority,conflicts Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
religious authority,new movements Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
religious authority,practices Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
robert,louis Versnel (2011) 556
selloi Luck (2006) 324
seneca the younger Potter Suh and Holladay (2021) 614
socrates,his trial Tor (2017) 43
socrates Dijkstra and Raschle (2020) 48; Luck (2006) 322; Potter Suh and Holladay (2021) 614
socrates (greek philosopher) Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
sokrates Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
solon Versnel (2011) 556
spermologos Potter Suh and Holladay (2021) 614
stone,i. f. Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
superstitio Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
trials,for impiety Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
trials,of socrates Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
violence,concept of Dijkstra and Raschle (2020) 48
violence,cultural (symbolic) Dijkstra and Raschle (2020) 48
violence,direct Dijkstra and Raschle (2020) 48
woodbury,l. Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 334
xenophon Ando and Ruepke (2006) 103
zeus Luck (2006) 324