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Thucydides, The History Of The Peloponnesian War, 8.53.2


ἀντιλεγόντων δὲ πολλῶν καὶ ἄλλων περὶ τῆς δημοκρατίας καὶ τῶν Ἀλκιβιάδου ἅμα ἐχθρῶν διαβοώντων ὡς δεινὸν εἴη εἰ τοὺς νόμους βιασάμενος κάτεισι, καὶ Εὐμολπιδῶν καὶ Κηρύκων περὶ τῶν μυστικῶν δι’ ἅπερ ἔφυγε μαρτυρομένων καὶ ἐπιθειαζόντων μὴ κατάγειν, ὁ Πείσανδρος παρελθὼν πρὸς πολλὴν ἀντιλογίαν καὶ σχετλιασμὸν ἠρώτα ἕνα ἕκαστον παράγων τῶν ἀντιλεγόντων, εἴ τινα ἐλπίδα ἔχει σωτηρίας τῇ πόλει, Πελοποννησίων ναῦς τε οὐκ ἐλάσσους σφῶν ἐν τῇ θαλάσσῃ ἀντιπρῴρους ἐχόντων καὶ πόλεις ξυμμαχίδας πλείους, βασιλέως τε αὐτοῖς καὶ Τισσαφέρνους χρήματα παρεχόντων, σφίσι τε οὐκέτι ὄντων, εἰ μή τις πείσει βασιλέα μεταστῆναι παρὰ σφᾶς.A number of speakers opposed them on the question of the democracy, the enemies of Alcibiades cried out against the scandal of a restoration to be effected by a violation of the constitution, and the Eumolpidae and Ceryces protested in behalf of the mysteries, the cause of his banishment, and called upon the gods to avert his recall; when Pisander, in the midst of much opposition and abuse, came forward, and taking each of his opponents aside asked him the following question:—In the face of the fact that the Peloponnesians had as many ships as their own confronting them at sea, more cities in alliance with them, and the king and Tissaphernes to supply them with money, of which the Athenians had none left, had he any hope of saving the state, unless some one could induce the king to come over to their side?


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1. Lysias, Orations, 6.16 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

2. Sophocles, Philoctetes, 1341, 257, 285-295, 297, 300-304, 311, 313-316, 1340 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

3. Thucydides, The History of The Peloponnesian War, 1.4, 6.27-6.29, 6.53-6.61, 7.50.4, 7.77, 8.1.1-8.1.2, 8.47-8.49, 8.52-8.56, 8.53.1, 8.65-8.69, 8.65.2, 8.67.3, 8.70.1, 8.81-8.82, 8.81.2, 8.89, 8.97.3, 8.108 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

7.50.4. All was at last ready, and they were on the point of sailing away, when an eclipse of the moon, which was then at the full, took place. Most of the Athenians, deeply impressed by this occurrence, now urged the generals to wait; and Nicias, who was somewhat over-addicted to divination and practices of that kind, refused from that moment even to take the question of departure into consideration, until they had waited the thrice nine days prescribed by the soothsayers. The besiegers were thus condemned to stay in the country; 8.1.1. Such were the events in Sicily . When the news was brought to Athens, for a long while they disbelieved even the most respectable of the soldiers who had themselves escaped from the scene of action and clearly reported the matter, a destruction so complete not being thought credible. When the conviction was forced upon them, they were angry with the orators who had joined in promoting the expedition, just as if they had not themselves voted it, and were enraged also with the reciters of oracles and soothsayers, and all other omenmongers of the time who had encouraged them to hope that they should conquer Sicily . 8.1.2. Already distressed at all points and in all quarters, after what had now happened, they were seized by a fear and consternation quite without example. It was grievous enough for the state and for every man in his proper person to lose so many heavy infantry, cavalry, and able-bodied troops, and to see none left to replace them; but when they saw, also, that they had not sufficient ships in their docks, or money in the treasury, or crews for the ships, they began to despair of salvation. They thought that their enemies in Sicily would immediately sail with their fleet against Piraeus, inflamed by so signal a victory; while their adversaries at home, redoubling all their preparations, would vigorously attack them by sea and land at once, aided by their own revolted confederates. 8.53.1. the Athenian envoys who had been despatched from Samos with Pisander arrived at Athens, and made a speech before the people, giving a brief summary of their views, and particularly insisting that if Alcibiades were recalled and the democratic constitution changed, they could have the king as their ally, and would be able to overcome the Peloponnesians. 8.65.2. Here they found most of the work already done by their associates. Some of the younger men had banded together, and secretly assassinated one Androcles, the chief leader of the commons, and mainly responsible for the banishment of Alcibiades; Androcles being singled out both because he was a popular leader, and because they sought by his death to recommend themselves to Alcibiades, who was, as they supposed, to be recalled, and to make Tissaphernes their friend. There were also some other obnoxious persons whom they secretly did away with in the same manner. 8.67.3. The way thus cleared, it was now plainly declared, that all tenure of office and receipt of pay under the existing institutions were at an end, and that five men must be elected as presidents, who should in their turn elect one hundred, and each of the hundred three apiece; and that this body thus made up to four hundred should enter the council chamber with full powers and govern as they judged best, and should convene the five thousand whenever they pleased. 8.70.1. Upon the Council withdrawing in this way without venturing any objection, and the rest of the citizens making no movement, the Four Hundred entered the council chamber, and for the present contented themselves with drawing lots for their Prytanes, and making their prayers and sacrifices to the gods upon entering office, but afterwards departed widely from the democratic system of government, and except that on account of Alcibiades they did not recall the exiles, ruled the city by force; 8.81.2. An assembly was then held in which Alcibiades complained of and deplored his private misfortune in having been banished, and speaking at great length upon public affairs, highly incited their hopes for the future, and extravagantly magnified his own influence with Tissaphernes. His object in this was to make the oligarchical government at Athens afraid of him, to hasten the dissolution of the clubs, to increase his credit with the army at Samos and heighten their own confidence, and lastly to prejudice the enemy as strongly as possible against Tissaphernes, and blast the hopes which they entertained. 8.97.3. They also voted for the recall of Alcibiades and of other exiles, and sent to him and to the camp at Samos, and urged them to devote themselves vigorously to the war.
4. Xenophon, Hellenica, 1.4.18 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

1.4.18. Meanwhile Alcibiades, who had come to anchor close to the shore, did not at once disembark, through fear of his enemies; but mounting upon the deck of 407 B.C. his ship, he looked to see whether his friends were present.
5. Aeschines, Letters, 1.188 (4th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

6. Plutarch, Alcibiades, 32.2 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

32.2. Duris the Samian, who claims that he was a descendant of Alcibiades, gives some additional details. He says that the oarsmen of Alcibiades rowed to the music of a flute blown by Chrysogonus the Pythian victor; that they kept time to a rhythmic call from the lips of Callipides the tragic actor; that both these artists were arrayed in the long tunics, flowing robes, and other adornment of their profession; and that the commander’s ship put into harbors with a sail of purple hue, as though, after a drinking bout, he were off on a revel.
7. Plutarch, Demetrius, 26 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)



Subjects of this text:

subject book bibliographic info
age-class, age-set Humphreys, Kinship in Ancient Athens: An Anthropological Analysis (2018) 435
agis Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 213
alcibiades, recall of Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 254
alcibiades Jouanna, Sophocles: A Study of His Theater in Its Political and Social Context (2018) 641; Martin, Divine Talk: Religious Argumentation in Demosthenes (2009) 143; Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 213, 426
asebia (impiety), of andocides Martin, Divine Talk: Religious Argumentation in Demosthenes (2009) 143
atheism, decree of diopeithes against Parker, Polytheism and Society at Athens (2005) 93
basileus, lessor of temene Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 53
cults, mysteries Martin, Divine Talk: Religious Argumentation in Demosthenes (2009) 143
deme Humphreys, Kinship in Ancient Athens: An Anthropological Analysis (2018) 435
demetrios the besieger, initiation in the mysteries Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 254
diodorus siculus, on alcibiades Jouanna, Sophocles: A Study of His Theater in Its Political and Social Context (2018) 641
ele(i)ans Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 426
eleusinian cult Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 426
eleusis, cult of demeter and kore, daduch Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 254
epistatai, hierophantes Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 254
epistatai, mysteries Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 254
eudanemoi Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 254
eumolpides, the Jouanna, Sophocles: A Study of His Theater in Its Political and Social Context (2018) 641
exegesis, and the sacred orgas Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 254
families, noble Martin, Divine Talk: Religious Argumentation in Demosthenes (2009) 143
friendship Humphreys, Kinship in Ancient Athens: An Anthropological Analysis (2018) 435
gene, eleusinian Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 254
hermes Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 426
hetairos/eia Humphreys, Kinship in Ancient Athens: An Anthropological Analysis (2018) 435
kallias iii, symposion Humphreys, Kinship in Ancient Athens: An Anthropological Analysis (2018) 435
kerykes, delineation of the sacred orgas Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 254
kerykes, involvement in the mysteries Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 254
kerykes, the Jouanna, Sophocles: A Study of His Theater in Its Political and Social Context (2018) 641
key (of priestess) Parker, Polytheism and Society at Athens (2005) 93
knife (of priest) Parker, Polytheism and Society at Athens (2005) 93
koironidai Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 254
krokonidai Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 254
law, on the lesser panathenaia Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 53
leases, length of Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 53
lycurgus, athenian politician and merchants of citium Parker, Polytheism and Society at Athens (2005) 93
megara, dispute with athens over the sacred orgas Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 254
miaros (pollution, impurity), andocides Martin, Divine Talk: Religious Argumentation in Demosthenes (2009) 143
nea (νέα) Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 53
neleus, shrine of Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 53
nicias Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 426
oaths, of mysteries Martin, Divine Talk: Religious Argumentation in Demosthenes (2009) 143
olympian games Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 426
olympian truce Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 426
olympian zeus Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 426
panathenaia (lesser) Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 53
philoctetes (sophocles), and alcibiades Jouanna, Sophocles: A Study of His Theater in Its Political and Social Context (2018) 641
plutarch, on alcibiades Jouanna, Sophocles: A Study of His Theater in Its Political and Social Context (2018) 641
poletai Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 53
politicians, obligation to speak on religious topics Parker, Polytheism and Society at Athens (2005) 93
prayers for athens symbols of (knife, key, tunic) Parker, Polytheism and Society at Athens (2005) 93
priests and priestesses, public Parker, Polytheism and Society at Athens (2005) 93
priests and priestesses, public funerary monuments of' Parker, Polytheism and Society at Athens (2005) 93
sacred orgas (ἱερὰ ὀργάς) Papazarkadas, Sacred and Public Land in Ancient Athens (2011) 254
samos Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 213
sicilian expedition Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 426
sicily Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 426
speusippos Humphreys, Kinship in Ancient Athens: An Anthropological Analysis (2018) 435
supporting speakers Martin, Divine Talk: Religious Argumentation in Demosthenes (2009) 143
temple Martin, Divine Talk: Religious Argumentation in Demosthenes (2009) 143