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Thucydides, The History Of The Peloponnesian War, 7.77.3


ἀνθ’ ὧν ἡ μὲν ἐλπὶς ὅμως θρασεῖα τοῦ μέλλοντος, αἱ δὲ ξυμφοραὶ οὐ κατ’ ἀξίαν δὴ φοβοῦσιν. τάχα δὲ ἂν καὶ λωφήσειαν: ἱκανὰ γὰρ τοῖς τε πολεμίοις ηὐτύχηται, καὶ εἴ τῳ θεῶν ἐπίφθονοι ἐστρατεύσαμεν, ἀποχρώντως ἤδη τετιμωρήμεθα.I have, therefore, still a strong hope for the future, and our misfortunes do not terrify me as much as they might. Indeed we may hope that they will be lightened: our enemies have had good fortune enough; and if any of the gods was offended at our expedition, we have been already amply punished.


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1. Aeschylus, Persians, 349, 348 (6th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

348. ἔτʼ ἆρʼ Ἀθηνῶν ἔστʼ ἀπόρθητος πόλις; Ἄγγελος 348. Is then the city of Messenger
2. Herodotus, Histories, 1.32.1, 3.40.2, 3.108.1-3.108.2, 7.17.2, 9.16.4 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

1.32.1. Thus Solon granted second place in happiness to these men. Croesus was vexed and said, “My Athenian guest, do you so much despise our happiness that you do not even make us worth as much as common men?” Solon replied, “Croesus, you ask me about human affairs, and I know that the divine is entirely grudging and troublesome to us. 3.40.2. It is pleasant to learn that a friend and ally is doing well. But I do not like these great successes of yours; for I know the gods, how jealous they are, and I desire somehow that both I and those for whom I care succeed in some affairs, fail in others, and thus pass life faring differently by turns, rather than succeed at everything. 3.108.1. The Arabians also say that the whole country would be full of these snakes if the same thing did not occur among them that I believe occurs among vipers. 3.108.2. Somehow the forethought of God (just as is reasonable) being wise has made all creatures prolific that are timid and edible, so that they do not become extinct through being eaten, whereas few young are born to hardy and vexatious creatures. 7.17.2. “Are you the one who dissuades Xerxes from marching against Hellas, because you care for him? Neither in the future nor now will you escape with impunity for striving to turn aside what must be. To Xerxes himself it has been declared what will befall him if he disobeys.” 9.16.4. Marvelling at these words, Thersander answered: “Must you not then tell this to Mardonius and those honorable Persians who are with him?” “Sir,” said the Persian, “that which a god wills to send no man can turn aside, for even truth sometimes finds no one to believe it.
3. Isocrates, Orations, 15.4, 15.13, 15.142-15.143 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

4. Lysias, Orations, 2.5 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

5. Sophocles, Oedipus The King, 56-57, 55 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

6. Thucydides, The History of The Peloponnesian War, 3.58.5, 3.59.2, 4.92.7, 5.102, 5.104-5.105, 5.112.2, 6.27.3, 6.31.6, 6.32.41, 6.33.4, 7.61-7.64, 7.69.2, 7.75.4, 7.77.2, 7.77.4 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

3.58.5. Pausanias buried them thinking that he was laying them in friendly ground and among men as friendly; but you, if you kill us and make the Plataean territory Theban, will leave your fathers and kinsmen in a hostile soil and among their murderers, deprived of the honors which they now enjoy. What is more, you will enslave the land in which the freedom of the Hellenes was won, make desolate the temples of the gods to whom they prayed before they overcame the Medes, and take away your ancestral sacrifices from those who founded and instituted them. 3.59.2. We, as we have a right to do and as our need impels us, entreat you, calling aloud upon the gods at whose common altar all the Hellenes worship, to hear our request, to be not unmindful of the oaths which your fathers swore, and which we now plead—we supplicate you by the tombs of your fathers, and appeal to those that are gone to save us from falling into the hands of the Thebans and their dearest friends from being given up to their most detested foes. We also remind you of that day on which we did the most glorious deeds, by your fathers' sides, we who now, on this are like to suffer the most dreadful fate. 4.92.7. Remembering this, the old must equal their ancient exploits, and the young, the sons of the heroes of that time, must endeavor not to disgrace their native valour; and trusting in the help of the god whose temple has been sacrilegiously fortified, and in the victims which in our sacrifices have proved propitious, we must march against the enemy, and teach him that he must go and get what he wants by attacking some one who will not resist him, but that men whose glory it is to be always ready to give battle for the liberty of their own country, and never unjustly to enslave that of others, will not let him go without a struggle.’ 5.112.2. ‘Our resolution, Athenians, is the same as it was at first. We will not in a moment deprive of freedom a city that has been inhabited these seven hundred years; but we put our trust in the fortune by which the gods have preserved it until now, and in the help of men, that is, of the Lacedaemonians; and so we will try and save ourselves. 6.27.3. The matter was taken up the more seriously, as it was thought to be ominous for the expedition, and part of a conspiracy to bring about a revolution and to upset the democracy. 6.31.6. Indeed the expedition became not less famous for its wonderful boldness and for the splendour of its appearance, than for its overwhelming strength as compared with the peoples against whom it was directed, and for the fact that this was the longest passage from home hitherto attempted, and the most ambitious in its objects considering the resources of those who undertook it. 6.33.4. Meanwhile those who believe me need not be dismayed at the force or daring of the enemy. They will not be able to do us more hurt than we shall do them; nor is the greatness of their armament altogether without advantage to us. Indeed, the greater it is the better, with regard to the rest of the Siceliots, whom dismay will make more ready to join us; and if we defeat or drive them away, disappointed of the objects of their ambition (for I do not fear for a moment that they will get what they want), it will be a most glorious exploit for us, and in my judgment by no means an unlikely one. 7.69.2. Meanwhile Nicias, appalled by the position of affairs, realizing the greatness and the nearness of the danger now that they were on the point of putting out from shore, and thinking, as men are apt to think in great crises, that when all has been done they have still something left to do, and when all has been said that they have not yet said enough, again called on the captains one by one, addressing each by his father's name and by his own, and by that of his tribe, and adjured them not to belie their own personal renown, or to obscure the hereditary virtues for which their ancestors were illustrious; he reminded them of their country, the freest of the free, and of the unfettered discretion allowed in it to all to live as they pleased; and added other arguments such as men would use at such a crisis, and which, with little alteration, are made to serve on all occasions alike—appeals to wives, children, and national gods,—without caring whether they are thought common-place, but loudly invoking them in the belief that they will be of use in the consternation of the moment. 7.75.4. These fell to entreating and bewailing until their friends knew not what to do, begging them to take them and loudly calling to each individual comrade or relative whom they could see, hanging upon the necks of their tent-fellows in the act of departure, and following as far as they could, and when their bodily strength failed them, calling again and again upon heaven and shrieking aloud as they were left behind. So that the whole army being filled with tears and distracted after this fashion found it not easy to go, even from an enemy's land, where they had already suffered evils too great for tears and in the unknown future before them feared to suffer more. 7.77.2. I myself who am not superior to any of you in strength—indeed you see how I am in my sickness—and who in the gifts of fortune am, I think, whether in private life or otherwise, the equal of any, am now exposed to the same danger as the meanest among you; and yet my life has been one of much devotion towards the gods, and of much justice and without offence towards men. 7.77.4. Others before us have attacked their neighbors and have done what men will do without suffering more than they could bear; and we may now justly expect to find the gods more kind, for we have become fitter objects for their pity than their jealousy. And then look at yourselves, mark the numbers and efficiency of the heavy infantry marching in your ranks, and do not give way too much to despondency, but reflect that you are yourselves at once a city wherever you sit down, and that there is no other in Sicily that could easily resist your attack, or expel you when once established.
7. Xenophon, The Persian Expedition, 5.1.15 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

5.1.15. Furthermore, they got a fifty-oared warship from the Trapezuntians, and put it under the command of Dexippus, a Laconian perioecus. The perioeci were the inhabitants of the outlying Laconian towns; they were free, but not Spartan citizens. This fellow, however, paying no heed to the duty of collecting vessels, slipped away with his man-of-war and left the Euxine. He did indeed get his deserts afterwards; for while engaged in some intrigue at the court of Seuthes See Xen. Anab. 7.2.31-34 . in Thrace he was killed by Nicander the Laconian.
8. Xenophon, The Education of Cyrus, 1.6.25 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

1.6.25. You mean to say, father, said he, that in everything the general must show more endurance than his men. Yes said he, that is just what I mean; however, never fear for that, my son; for bear in mind that the same toils do not affect the general and the private in the same way, though they have the same sort of bodies; but the honour of the general’s position and the very consciousness that nothing he does escapes notice lighten the burdens for him.
9. Aristotle, Rhetoric, None (4th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

10. Demosthenes, Orations, 21.196 (4th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

11. Cicero, Pro Murena, 38 (2nd cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

12. Polybius, Histories, 10.3.7 (2nd cent. BCE - 2nd cent. BCE)

13. Plutarch, Alexander The Great, 4.4-4.6 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

4.4. And in Alexander’s case, it was the heat of his body, as it would seem, which made him prone to drink, and choleric. But while he was still a boy his self-restraint showed itself in the fact that, although he was impetuous and violent in other matters, the pleasures of the body had little hold upon him, and he indulged in them with great moderation, while his ambition kept his spirit serious and lofty in advance of his years. 4.5. For it was neither every kind of fame nor fame from every source that he courted, as Philip did, who plumed himself like a sophist on the power of his oratory, and took care to have the victories of his chariots at Olympia engraved upon his coins; nay, when those about him inquired whether he would be willing to contend in the foot-race at the Olympic games, since he was swift of foot, Yes, said he, if I could have kings as my contestants.
14. Plutarch, Cato The Younger, 9.9 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

15. Plutarch, Pelopidas, 2 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

16. Suetonius, Iulius, 57 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

17. Tacitus, Annals, 13.35 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

18. Tacitus, Histories, 2.5 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

2.5.  Vespasian was energetic in war. He used to march at the head of his troops, select a place for camp, oppose the enemy night and day with wise strategy and, if occasion demanded, with his own hands. His food was whatever chance offered; in his dress and bearing he hardly differed from the common soldier. He would have been quite equal to the generals of old if he had not been avaricious. Mucianus, on the other hand, was eminent for his magnificence and wealth and by the complete superiority of his scale of life to that of a private citizen. He was the readier speaker, experienced in civil administration and in statesmanship. It would have been a rare combination for an emperor if the faults of the two could have been done away with and their virtues only combined in one man. But Mucianus was governor of Syria, Vespasian of Judea. They had quarrelled through jealousy because they governed neighbouring provinces. Finally at Nero's death they had laid aside their hostilities and consulted together, at first through friends as go-betweens; and then Titus, the chief bond of their concord, had ended their dangerous feud by pointing out their common interests; both by his nature and skill he was well calculated to win over even a person of the character of Mucianus. Tribunes, centurions, and the common soldiers were secured for the cause by industry or by licence, by virtues or by pleasures, according to the individual's character.
19. Cassius Dio, Roman History, 52.34.1, 52.39.3-52.39.4, 68.23 (2nd cent. CE - 3rd cent. CE)

52.34.1.  "Whatever you wish your subjects to think and do, this you should always say and do yourself. In this way you will be educating them, rather than intimidating them through the punishments prescribed by the laws. The former policy inspires zeal, the latter fear; and one finds it easier to imitate that which is good when he sees it actually practised than to avoid that which is evil when he hears it forbidden by mere words. 52.39.3.  For how can men help regarding you with affection as father and saviour, when they see that you are orderly and upright in your life, successful in war though inclined to peace; when you refrain from insolence and greed; when you meet them on a footing of equality 68.23. 1.  the senate voted to him all the usual honours in great plenty and furthermore bestowed upon him the title of Optimus, or Most Excellent. He always marched on foot with the rank and file of his army, and he attended to the ordering and disposition of the troops throughout the entire campaign, leading them sometimes in one order and sometimes in another; and he forded all the rivers that they did.,2.  Sometimes he even caused his scouts to circulate false reports, in order that the soldiers might at one and the same time practise military manoeuvres and become fearless and ready for any dangers. After he had captured Nisibis and Batnae he was given the name of Parthicus; but he took much greater pride in the title of Optimus than in all the rest, inasmuch as it referred rather to his character than to his arms.


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alcibiades Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123; Kazantzidis and Spatharas, Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art (2018) 145
athenians at melos (speech of), and divine Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 140
athens, athenians Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123
athens/athenians Kingsley Monti and Rood, The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography (2022) 33
audience, external Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
audience, internal Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
audience Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
battle scenes Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
bravery (ἀνδρεία) Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
caracalla Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
citizen Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123
community Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123
contrasts (in narrative) Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
daring/boldness (tolme) Kazantzidis and Spatharas, Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art (2018) 121, 145
divination/oracles Kazantzidis and Spatharas, Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art (2018) 121
divine, the (τὸ θεῖον, τὸ δαιμόνιον etc.), in herodotus Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 140
divine, the (τὸ θεῖον, τὸ δαιμόνιον etc.), in melian dialogue Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 140
divine, the (τὸ θεῖον, τὸ δαιμόνιον etc.), vs. personal labels Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 140
divine, the (τὸ θεῖον, τὸ δαιμόνιον etc.), vs. the human Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 140
divine Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
endurance Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
fiction Kingsley Monti and Rood, The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography (2022) 33
groups Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
heracles Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 437
herms' Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 437
hope, and deception Kazantzidis and Spatharas, Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art (2018) 121
hope, and religion Kazantzidis and Spatharas, Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art (2018) 121
idleness Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
imitation (of emperors) Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
iser, w. Kingsley Monti and Rood, The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography (2022) 33
julianus (didius) Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
leader(ship) Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
marcus aurelius Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
melos/melians Kingsley Monti and Rood, The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography (2022) 33
monuments Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123
nicias, and personal gods Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 140
nicias, athenian Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123
nicias Kazantzidis and Spatharas, Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art (2018) 121, 145; Kingsley Monti and Rood, The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography (2022) 33; Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 437
pain (mental and physical) Kazantzidis and Spatharas, Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art (2018) 121
paradigm Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123
pertinax Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
phthonos, as envy Barbato, The Ideology of Democratic Athens: Institutions, Orators and the Mythical Past (2020) 163
phthonos, as indignation Barbato, The Ideology of Democratic Athens: Institutions, Orators and the Mythical Past (2020) 163
phthonos, of the gods (phthonos theōn) Barbato, The Ideology of Democratic Athens: Institutions, Orators and the Mythical Past (2020) 163
plataea and plataeans Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 140
politics, hope in greek and roman Kazantzidis and Spatharas, Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art (2018) 121, 145
praise Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
procession Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123
rhetoric, used by roman emperors Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
ritual Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123
sacred way / hiera hodos Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123
septimius severus Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
sicilian expedition Kazantzidis and Spatharas, Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art (2018) 145; Kingsley Monti and Rood, The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography (2022) 33
sight/seeing Kazantzidis and Spatharas, Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art (2018) 121
soldiers Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
space Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123
space control Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123
speech(es) Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
structures, ritual Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123
substantivized neuter phrases, based on adjectives Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 140
superstition Kazantzidis and Spatharas, Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art (2018) 121
syracuse Kingsley Monti and Rood, The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography (2022) 33
techniques, narrative, gaps and omissions Kingsley Monti and Rood, The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography (2022) 33
thucydides Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123; Kingsley Monti and Rood, The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography (2022) 33
virtues Chrysanthou, Reconfiguring the Imperial Past: Narrative Patterns and Historical Interpretation in Herodian’s History of the Empire (2022) 139
walls, city Athanassaki and Titchener, Plutarch's Cities (2022) 123
τύχη (chance, fortune), in melian dialogue Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 140