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Thucydides, The History Of The Peloponnesian War, 4.21.2


οἱ δὲ τὰς μὲν σπονδάς, ἔχοντες τοὺς ἄνδρας ἐν τῇ νήσῳ, ἤδη σφίσιν ἐνόμιζον ἑτοίμους εἶναι, ὁπόταν βούλωνται ποιεῖσθαι πρὸς αὐτούς, τοῦ δὲ πλέονος ὠρέγοντο.The Athenians, however, having the men on the island, thought that the treaty would be ready for them whenever they chose to make it, and grasped at something further.


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1. Thucydides, The History of The Peloponnesian War, 1.13.6, 1.18.1, 1.20, 1.78, 1.95.3, 1.140, 2.61.3, 2.64.1, 3.37, 3.39.3, 4.1, 4.17.4, 4.28, 4.41.3-4.41.4, 4.65.4, 4.92.2, 4.106.1, 6.4-6.5, 6.8.4, 6.10.5, 6.15.4, 6.16.6, 6.24.2, 6.53-6.59, 6.83.1 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

1.13.6. Subsequently the Ionians attained to great naval strength in the reign of Cyrus, the first king of the Persians, and of his son Cambyses, and while they were at war with the former commanded for a while the Ionian sea. Polycrates also, the tyrant of Samos, had a powerful navy in the reign of Cambyses with which he reduced many of the islands, and among them Rhenea, which he consecrated to the Delian Apollo. About this time also the Phocaeans, while they were founding Marseilles, defeated the Carthaginians in a sea-fight. 1.18.1. But at last a time came when the tyrants of Athens and the far older tyrannies of the rest of Hellas were, with the exception of those in Sicily, once and for all put down by Lacedaemon ; for this city, though after the settlement of the Dorians, its present inhabitants, it suffered from factions for an unparalleled length of time, still at a very early period obtained good laws, and enjoyed a freedom from tyrants which was unbroken; it has possessed the same form of government for more than four hundred years, reckoning to the end of the late war, and has thus been in a position to arrange the affairs of the other states. Not many years after the deposition of the tyrants, the battle of Marathon was fought between the Medes and the Athenians. 1.95.3. In the meantime the Lacedaemonians recalled Pausanias for an investigation of the reports which had reached them. Manifold and grave accusations had been brought against him by Hellenes arriving in Sparta ; and, to all appearance, there had been in him more of the mimicry of a despot than of the attitude of a general. 2.61.3. For before what is sudden, unexpected, and least within calculation the spirit quails; and putting all else aside, the plague has certainly been an emergency of this kind. 2.64.1. But you must not be seduced by citizens like these nor be angry with me,—who, if I voted for war, only did as you did yourselves,—in spite of the enemy having invaded your country and done what you could be certain that he would do, if you refused to comply with his demands; and although besides what we counted for, the plague has come upon us—the only point indeed at which our calculation has been at fault. It is this, I know, that has had a large share in making me more unpopular than I should otherwise have been,—quite undeservedly, unless you are also prepared to give me the credit of any success with which chance may present you. 3.39.3. The fate of those of their neighbors who had already rebelled and had been subdued, was no lesson to them; their own prosperity could not dissuade them from affronting danger; but blindly confident in the future, and full of hopes beyond their power though not beyond their ambition, they declared war and made their decision to prefer might to right, their attack being determined not by provocation but by the moment which seemed propitious. 4.17.4. You can now, if you choose, employ your present success to advantage, so as to keep what you have got and gain honor and reputation besides, and you can avoid the mistake of those who meet with an extraordinary piece of good fortune, and are led on by hope to grasp continually at something further, through having already succeeded without expecting it. 4.41.3. The Lacedaemonians, hitherto without experience of incursions or a warfare of the kind, finding the Helots deserting, and fearing the march of revolution in their country, began to be seriously uneasy, and in spite of their unwillingness to betray this to the Athenians began to send envoys to Athens, and tried to recover Pylos and the prisoners. 4.41.4. The Athenians, however, kept grasping at more, and dismissed envoy after envoy without their having effected anything. Such was the history of the affair of Pylos . 4.65.4. So thoroughly had the present prosperity persuaded the citizens that nothing could withstand them, and that they could achieve what was possible and impracticable alike, with means ample or inadequate it mattered not. The secret of this was their general extraordinary success, which made them confuse their strength with their hopes. 4.92.2. And if any one has taken up with the idea in question for reasons of safety, it is high time for him to change his mind. The party attacked, whose own country is in danger, can scarcely discuss what is prudent with the calmness of men who are in full enjoyment of what they have got, and are thinking of attacking a neighbour in order to get more. 6.8.4. and Nicias, who had been chosen to the command against his will, and who thought that the state was not well advised, but upon a slight and specious pretext was aspiring to the conquest of the whole of Sicily, a great matter to achieve, came forward in the hope of diverting the Athenians from the enterprise, and gave them the following counsel:— 6.10.5. A man ought, therefore, to consider these points, and not to think of running risks with a country placed so critically, or of grasping at another empire before we have secured the one we have already; for in fact the Thracian Chalcidians have been all these years in revolt from us without being yet subdued, and others on the continents yield us but a doubtful obedience. Meanwhile the Egestaeans, our allies, have been wronged, and we run to help them, while the rebels who have so long wronged us still wait for punishment. 6.15.4. Alarmed at the greatness of his license in his own life and habits, and of the ambition which he showed in all things soever that he undertook, the mass of the people set him down as a pretender to the tyranny, and became his enemies; and although publicly his conduct of the war was as good as could be desired individually, his habits gave offence to every one, and caused them to commit affairs to other hands, and thus before long to ruin the city. 6.16.6. Such are my aspirations, and however I am abused for them in private, the question is whether any one manages public affairs better than I do. Having united the most powerful states of Peloponnese, without great danger or expense to you, I compelled the Lacedaemonians to stake their all upon the issue of a single day at Mantinea ; and although victorious in the battle, they have never since fully recovered confidence. 6.24.2. The Athenians, however, far from having their taste for the voyage taken away by the burdensomeness of the preparations, became more eager for it than ever; and just the contrary took place of what Nicias had thought, as it was held that he had given good advice, and that the expedition would be the safest in the world. 6.83.1. We, therefore, deserve to rule because we placed the largest fleet and an unflinching patriotism at the service of the Hellenes, and because these, our subjects, did us mischief by their ready subservience to the Medes; and, desert apart, we seek to strengthen ourselves against the Peloponnesians.


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abstract nominal phrases in thucydides, agency of humans called into question / deemphasized by Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 185
abstract nominal phrases in thucydides, and dative of person Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 175
abstract nominal phrases in thucydides, as subjects Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 175
abstract nominal phrases in thucydides, vs. active / personal phrasing Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 175
alcibiades, and athenian decision in favour of sicilian expedition Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 185
alcibiades Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 270
athenian empire Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 270
athens and athenians, exposed to forces beyond their control Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 175, 185
athens and athenians, mentality of…in the wake of pylos Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 175
choice (primarily in thucydides), impairment / erasure of Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 175
cleophon Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 206
desire, athenian…(mostly for sicily) Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 185
desire, for more (πλεονεξία) Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 175, 185
diodotus Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 176
irony Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 185
irrational impulses, athenians beset by Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 175, 185
nicias, and athenian decision for sicilian expedition Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 185
phormio Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 176
plataeans Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 176
samos Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 270
sicilian debate Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 206
sicilian expedition, decision for, and pylos Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 185
sicilian expedition, decision for, athenian motivation for Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 185
spartans at athens (speech of), and diodotus Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 175
spartans at athens (speech of), on scope for choice Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 175
spartans at athens (speech of), proven right Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 175
substantivized neuter phrases, based on participles (= schema thucydideum) Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 185
thucydides, son of melesias, archaeology Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 270
thucydides, son of melesias, chance Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 270
thucydides, son of melesias, manuscript traditionnan' Rengakos and Tsakmakis, Brill's Companion to Thucydides (2006) 270
ἀνήκεστος Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 175
ἐλπίς (hope or expectation) and ἐλπίζω and εὔελπις, and sicilian expedition Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 185
ἔρως, and sicilian expedition Joho, Style and Necessity in Thucydides (2022) 185