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Thucydides, The History Of The Peloponnesian War, 3.37.4

οἱ μὲν γὰρ τῶν τε νόμων σοφώτεροι βούλονται φαίνεσθαι τῶν τε αἰεὶ λεγομένων ἐς τὸ κοινὸν περιγίγνεσθαι, ὡς ἐν ἄλλοις μείζοσιν οὐκ ἂν δηλώσαντες τὴν γνώμην, καὶ ἐκ τοῦ τοιούτου τὰ πολλὰ σφάλλουσι τὰς πόλεις: οἱ δ’ ἀπιστοῦντες τῇ ἐξ αὑτῶν ξυνέσει ἀμαθέστεροι μὲν τῶν νόμων ἀξιοῦσιν εἶναι, ἀδυνατώτεροι δὲ τοῦ καλῶς εἰπόντος μέμψασθαι λόγον, κριταὶ δὲ ὄντες ἀπὸ τοῦ ἴσου μᾶλλον ἢ ἀγωνισταὶ ὀρθοῦνται τὰ πλείω. The latter are always wanting to appear wiser than the laws, and to overrule every proposition brought forward, thinking that they cannot show their wit in more important matters, and by such behavior too often ruin their country; while those who mistrust their own cleverness are content to be less learned than the laws, and less able to pick holes in the speech of a good speaker; and being fair judges rather than rival athletes, generally conduct affairs successfully.

Intertexts (texts cited often on the same page as the searched text):

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1. Thucydides, The History of The Peloponnesian War, 7.77.2 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE) 7.77.2. I myself who am not superior to any of you in strength—indeed you see how I am in my sickness—and who in the gifts of fortune am, I think, whether in private life or otherwise, the equal of any, am now exposed to the same danger as the meanest among you; and yet my life has been one of much devotion towards the gods, and of much justice and without offence towards men.
2. Dinarchus, Or., 1.47 (4th cent. BCE - 3rd cent. BCE)
3. Demosthenes, Orations, 19.184-19.185, 24.124

Subjects of this text:

subject	book bibliographic info
cleon	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 167
deception,and deliberation	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 167
deception,and democratic constitution	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 165, 167
democracy,athenian,and noble lies	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 165, 167
democracy,athenian,mass-elite relations in	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 165
democracy,athenian,obers view of	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 165
demosthenes,on democracy and oligarchy	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 167
demosthenes,on logocentricity	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 167
demosthenes,representation of deceit	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 165
demosthenes,works,on the false embassy	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 165
demosthenes	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 165, 167
dinarchus	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 165
elites/masses	Spatharas (2019), Emotions, persuasion, and public discourse in classical Athens, 136
epieikes/epieikeia	Spatharas (2019), Emotions, persuasion, and public discourse in classical Athens, 136
nicias	Spatharas (2019), Emotions, persuasion, and public discourse in classical Athens, 136
noble lie	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 165, 167
ober,j.	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 165
pericles,on deceit,on deliberation	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 167
phaulon/phaulos	Spatharas (2019), Emotions, persuasion, and public discourse in classical Athens, 136
phthonos (φθόνος)	Spatharas (2019), Emotions, persuasion, and public discourse in classical Athens, 136
sophia,wisdom of aithra in suppliant women'	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 97
suppliant women absence of	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 97
suppliant women aithras intercession with theseus in	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 97
thucydides,funeral speech	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 167
thucydides,on mytilenean debate	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 167
topoi,and interplay with creative strategy	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 165, 167
topoi	Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 165
zeus suppliant women not mentioning	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 97