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Thucydides, The History Of The Peloponnesian War, 2.43.1

‘καὶ οἵδε μὲν προσηκόντως τῇ πόλει τοιοίδε ἐγένοντο: τοὺς δὲ λοιποὺς χρὴ ἀσφαλεστέραν μὲν εὔχεσθαι, ἀτολμοτέραν δὲ μηδὲν ἀξιοῦν τὴν ἐς τοὺς πολεμίους διάνοιαν ἔχειν, σκοποῦντας μὴ λόγῳ μόνῳ τὴν ὠφελίαν, ἣν ἄν τις πρὸς οὐδὲν χεῖρον αὐτοὺς ὑμᾶς εἰδότας μηκύνοι, λέγων ὅσα ἐν τῷ τοὺς πολεμίους ἀμύνεσθαι ἀγαθὰ ἔνεστιν, ἀλλὰ μᾶλλον τὴν τῆς πόλεως δύναμιν καθ’ ἡμέραν ἔργῳ θεωμένους καὶ ἐραστὰς γιγνομένους αὐτῆς, καὶ ὅταν ὑμῖν μεγάλη δόξῃ εἶναι,ἐνθυμουμένους ὅτι τολμῶντες καὶ γιγνώσκοντες τὰ δέοντα καὶ ἐν τοῖς ἔργοις αἰσχυνόμενοι ἄνδρες αὐτὰ ἐκτήσαντο, καὶ ὁπότε καὶ πείρᾳ του σφαλεῖεν, οὐκ οὖν καὶ τὴν πόλιν γε τῆς σφετέρας ἀρετῆς ἀξιοῦντες στερίσκειν, κάλλιστον δὲ ἔρανον αὐτῇ προϊέμενοι. So died these men as became Athenians. You, their survivors, must determine to have as unaltering a resolution in the field, though you may pray that it may have a happier issue. And not contented with ideas derived only from words of the advantages which are bound up with the defence of your country, though these would furnish a valuable text to a speaker even before an audience so alive to them as the present, you must yourselves realize the power of Athens, and feed your eyes upon her from day to day, till love of her fills your hearts; and then when all her greatness shall break upon you, you must reflect that it was by courage, sense of duty, and a keen feeling of honor in action that men were enabled to win all this, and that no personal failure in an enterprise could make them consent to deprive their country of their valor, but they laid it at her feet as the most glorious contribution that they could offer.

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1. Aristophanes, Knights, 267-268, 797, 1114 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE) 1114. ἄνδρα τύραννον.
2. Euripides, Hercules Furens, 411 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)
3. Thucydides, The History of The Peloponnesian War, 1.144.1, 2.35.1, 2.39.4, 2.40.2-2.40.3, 2.42.4, 2.43.2, 2.51.4, 2.52.4, 2.62.5, 2.63, 2.64.5, 2.65.5, 6.13.1, 6.15.2 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE) 1.144.1. I have many other reasons to hope for a favorable issue, if you can consent not to combine schemes of fresh conquest with the conduct of the war, and will abstain from willfully involving yourselves in other dangers; indeed, I am more afraid of our own blunders than of the enemy's devices. 2.35.1. ‘Most of my predecessors in this place have commended him who made this speech part of the law, telling us that it is well that it should be delivered at the burial of those who fall in battle. For myself, I should have thought that the worth which had displayed itself in deeds, would be sufficiently rewarded by honors also shown by deeds; such as you now see in this funeral prepared at the people's cost. And I could have wished that the reputations of many brave men were not to be imperilled in the mouth of a single individual, to stand or fall according as he spoke well or ill. For it is hard to speak properly upon a subject where it is even difficult to convince your hearers that you are speaking the truth. 2.39.4. And yet if with habits not of labor but of ease, and courage not of art but of nature, we are still willing to encounter danger, we have the double advantage of escaping the experience of hardships in anticipation and of facing them in the hour of need as fearlessly as those who are never free from them. Nor are these the only points in which our city is worthy of admiration. 2.40.2. Our public men have, besides politics, their private affairs to attend to, and our ordinary citizens, though occupied with the pursuits of industry, are still fair judges of public matters; for, unlike any other nation, regarding him who takes no part in these duties not as unambitious but as useless, we Athenians are able to judge at all events if we cannot originate, and instead of looking on discussion as a stumbling-block in the way of action, we think it an indispensable preliminary to any wise action at all. 2.40.3. Again, in our enterprises we present the singular spectacle of daring and deliberation, each carried to its highest point, and both united in the same persons; although usually decision is the fruit of ignorance, hesitation of reflection. But the palm of courage will surely be adjudged most justly to those, who best know the difference between hardship and pleasure and yet are never tempted to shrink from danger. 2.42.4. But none of these allowed either wealth with its prospect of future enjoyment to unnerve his spirit, or poverty with its hope of a day of freedom and riches to tempt him to shrink from danger. No, holding that vengeance upon their enemies was more to be desired than any personal blessings, and reckoning this to be the most glorious of hazards, they joyfully determined to accept the risk, to make sure of their vengeance and to let their wishes wait; and while committing to hope the uncertainty of final success, in the business before them they thought fit to act boldly and trust in themselves. Thus choosing to die resisting, rather than to live submitting, they fled only from dishonor, but met danger face to face, and after one brief moment, while at the summit of their fortune, escaped, not from their fear, but from their glory. 2.43.2. For this offering of their lives made in common by them all they each of them individually received that renown which never grows old, and for a sepulchre, not so much that in which their bones have been deposited, but that noblest of shrines wherein their glory is laid up to be eternally remembered upon every occasion on which deed or story shall fall for its commemoration. 2.51.4. By far the most terrible feature in the malady was the dejection which ensued when anyone felt himself sickening, for the despair into which they instantly fell took away their power of resistance, and left them a much easier prey to the disorder; besides which, there was the awful spectacle of men dying like sheep, through having caught the infection in nursing each other. This caused the greatest mortality. 2.52.4. All the burial rites before in use were entirely upset, and they buried the bodies as best they could. Many from want of the proper appliances, through so many of their friends having died already, had recourse to the most shameless sepultures: sometimes getting the start of those who had raised a pile, they threw their own dead body upon the stranger's pyre and ignited it; sometimes they tossed the corpse which they were carrying on the top of another that was burning, and so went off. 2.62.5. And where the chances are the same, knowledge fortifies courage by the contempt which is its consequence, its trust being placed, not in hope, which is the prop of the desperate, but in a judgment grounded upon existing resources, whose anticipations are more to be depended upon. 2.64.5. Hatred and unpopularity at the moment have fallen to the lot of all who have aspired to rule others; but where odium must be incurred, true wisdom incurs it for the highest objects. Hatred also is shortlived; but that which makes the splendor of the present and the glory of the future remains for ever unforgotten. 2.65.5. For as long as he was at the head of the state during the peace, he pursued a moderate and conservative policy; and in his time its greatness was at its height. When the war broke out, here also he seems to have rightly gauged the power of his country. 6.13.1. When I see such persons now sitting here at the side of that same individual and summoned by him, alarm seizes me; and I, in my turn, summon any of the older men that may have such a person sitting next him, not to let himself be shamed down, for fear of being thought a coward if he do not vote for war, but, remembering how rarely success is got by wishing and how often by forecast, to leave to them the mad dream of conquest, and as a true lover of his country, now threatened by the greatest danger in its history, to hold up his hand on the other side; to vote that the Siceliots be left in the limits now existing between us, limits of which no one can complain (the Ionian sea for the coasting voyage, and the Sicilian across the open main), to enjoy their own possessions and to settle their own quarrels; 6.15.2. By far the warmest advocate of the expedition was, however, Alcibiades, son of Clinias, who wished to thwart Nicias both as his political opponent and also because of the attack he had made upon him in his speech, and who was, besides, exceedingly ambitious of a command by which he hoped to reduce Sicily and Carthage, and personally to gain in wealth and reputation by means of his successes.
4. Demosthenes, Orations, 60.26-60.31
5. Lysias, Orations, 2.18, 2.61

Subjects of this text:

subject	book bibliographic info
absence	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
aristophanes	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
athena	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 101
athenian ancestors	Barbato (2020), The Ideology of Democratic Athens: Institutions, Orators and the Mythical Past, 62
athenian exceptionalism	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
athens,erectheus,patriotic readiness of praxithea to sacrifice daughter in	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 100, 101
athens,social norms of desire in	Steiner (2001), Images in Mind: Statues in Archaic and Classical Greek Literature and Thought, 209
athens	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
autochthony,athenian	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
civic life	Steiner (2001), Images in Mind: Statues in Archaic and Classical Greek Literature and Thought, 209
cleon	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
democracy	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
discrepancy,between words and deeds	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
dynamis (δύναμις)	Spatharas (2019), Emotions, persuasion, and public discourse in classical Athens, 61
elite,ideological agency	Barbato (2020), The Ideology of Democratic Athens: Institutions, Orators and the Mythical Past, 62
equality	Barbato (2020), The Ideology of Democratic Athens: Institutions, Orators and the Mythical Past, 62
erastes/eromenos	Spatharas (2019), Emotions, persuasion, and public discourse in classical Athens, 61
ergon	Spatharas (2019), Emotions, persuasion, and public discourse in classical Athens, 61
eros,patriotic	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 100, 101
eros	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110; Steiner (2001), Images in Mind: Statues in Archaic and Classical Greek Literature and Thought, 209
euripides	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
freedom	Barbato (2020), The Ideology of Democratic Athens: Institutions, Orators and the Mythical Past, 62
funeral oration,catalogue of exploits	Barbato (2020), The Ideology of Democratic Athens: Institutions, Orators and the Mythical Past, 62
funeral oration,depiction of democracy	Barbato (2020), The Ideology of Democratic Athens: Institutions, Orators and the Mythical Past, 62
funeral oration	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
gaze,desirous	Steiner (2001), Images in Mind: Statues in Archaic and Classical Greek Literature and Thought, 209
hope,and eros	Kazantzidis and Spatharas (2018), Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art, 117
ideology,constructive function	Barbato (2020), The Ideology of Democratic Athens: Institutions, Orators and the Mythical Past, 62
justice	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
leadership	Kazantzidis and Spatharas (2018), Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art, 117
leosthenes	Barbato (2020), The Ideology of Democratic Athens: Institutions, Orators and the Mythical Past, 62
logos/logoi	Spatharas (2019), Emotions, persuasion, and public discourse in classical Athens, 61
lysias	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 101
marathon (battle of)	Barbato (2020), The Ideology of Democratic Athens: Institutions, Orators and the Mythical Past, 62
orator,role in ideological practice	Barbato (2020), The Ideology of Democratic Athens: Institutions, Orators and the Mythical Past, 62
peloponnesian war,the	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
periclean citizenship law,the	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
pericles,and balance	Joho (2022), Style and Necessity in Thucydides, 286, 287
pericles,and ideal	Joho (2022), Style and Necessity in Thucydides, 273
pericles,antitheses involving γνώμη in speeches of	Joho (2022), Style and Necessity in Thucydides, 286, 287
pericles,prevailing over irrationality	Joho (2022), Style and Necessity in Thucydides, 287
pericles	Kazantzidis and Spatharas (2018), Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art, 117; Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110; Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 100, 101; Spatharas (2019), Emotions, persuasion, and public discourse in classical Athens, 61
phoenician women	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 100
plague	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
political geography	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
politics,eros,patriotic	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 100, 101
politics,hope in greek and roman	Kazantzidis and Spatharas (2018), Hope in Ancient Literature, History, and Art, 117
politics,in erectheus	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 100, 101
pothos	Steiner (2001), Images in Mind: Statues in Archaic and Classical Greek Literature and Thought, 209
praxithea	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
present things / circumstances (τὰ παρόντα,τὰ ὑπάρχοντα,τὰ πράγματα etc.)	Joho (2022), Style and Necessity in Thucydides, 286, 287
rule of law	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
sacrifice,euripidess interest in young victims of	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 100
sacrifice,of polyxena,in hecuba	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 100
sacrifice,patriotic readiness of praxithea to sacrifice daughter in erectheus'	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 100
sacrifice,patriotic readiness of praxithea to sacrifice daughter in erectheus	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 101
social norms,athenian	Steiner (2001), Images in Mind: Statues in Archaic and Classical Greek Literature and Thought, 209
sparta	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
state funeral for the war dead,discursive parameters	Barbato (2020), The Ideology of Democratic Athens: Institutions, Orators and the Mythical Past, 62
suppliant women aithras intercession with theseus in	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 100
suppliant women on sacrifice of children	Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 100
symbol	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
thauma/thaumaston	Spatharas (2019), Emotions, persuasion, and public discourse in classical Athens, 61
tragedy	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
tyranny	Kirichenko (2022), Greek Literature and the Ideal: The Pragmatics of Space from the Archaic to the Hellenistic Age, 110
γνώμη (and γιγνώσκω),and antithesis	Joho (2022), Style and Necessity in Thucydides, 286, 287
γνώμη (and γιγνώσκω),struggling with contrary impulses	Joho (2022), Style and Necessity in Thucydides, 286, 287
γνώμη (and γιγνώσκω),vs. external circumstances	Joho (2022), Style and Necessity in Thucydides, 286, 287
γνώμη (and γιγνώσκω),vs. passion	Joho (2022), Style and Necessity in Thucydides, 286, 287
τύχη (chance,fortune),and pericles	Joho (2022), Style and Necessity in Thucydides, 286
ἐλπίς (hope or expectation) and ἐλπίζω and εὔελπις,in pericles speeches	Joho (2022), Style and Necessity in Thucydides, 286
ἔργον,vs. λόγος	Joho (2022), Style and Necessity in Thucydides, 286, 287