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Seneca The Younger, Letters, 82.16


nanTherefore, although death is something indifferent, it is nevertheless not a thing which we can easily ignore. The soul must be hardened by long practice, so that it may learn to endure the sight and the approach of death. Death ought to be despised more than it is wont to be despised. For we believe too many of the stories about death. Many thinkers have striven hard to increase its ill repute; they have portrayed the prison in the world below and the land overwhelmed by everlasting night, where Within his blood-stained cave Hell's warder huge Doth sprawl his ugly length on half-crunched bones, And terrifies the disembodied ghosts With never-ceasing bark. Even if you can win your point and prove that these are mere stories and that nothing is left for the dead to fear, another fear steals upon you. For the fear of going to the underworld is equalled by the fear of going nowhere.


nanTherefore, although death is something indifferent, it is nevertheless not a thing which we can easily ignore. The soul must be hardened by long practice, so that it may learn to endure the sight and the approach of death. Death ought to be despised more than it is wont to be despised. For we believe too many of the stories about death. Many thinkers have striven hard to increase its ill repute; they have portrayed the prison in the world below and the land overwhelmed by everlasting night, where Within his blood-stained cave Hell's warder huge Doth sprawl his ugly length on half-crunched bones, And terrifies the disembodied ghosts With never-ceasing bark.[11] Even if you can win your point and prove that these are mere stories and that nothing is left for the dead to fear, another fear steals upon you. For the fear of going to the underworld is equalled by the fear of going nowhere.


nanSo let us abolish all such harangues as this: "No man in the bonds of drunkenness has power over his soul. As the very vats are burst by new wine, and as the dregs at the bottom are raised to the surface by the strength of the fermentation; so, when the wine effervesces, whatever lies hidden below is brought up and made visible. As a man overcome by liquor cannot keep down his food when he has over-indulged in wine, so he cannot keep back a secret either. He pours forth impartially both his own secrets and those of other persons.


Intertexts (texts cited often on the same page as the searched text):

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1. Aristophanes, Clouds, 347-350, 346 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

346. ἤδη ποτ' ἀναβλέψας εἶδες νεφέλην κενταύρῳ ὁμοίαν
2. Cicero, On The Nature of The Gods, 2.5 (2nd cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

2.5. how is the latter fact more evident than the former? Nothing but the presence in our minds of a firmly grasped concept of the deity could account for the stability and permanence of our belief in him, a belief which is only strengthened by the passage of the ages and grows more deeply rooted with each successive generation of mankind. In every other case we see that fictitious and unfounded opinions have dwindled away with lapse of time. Who believes that the Hippocentaur or the Chimaera ever existed? Where can you find an old wife senseless enough to be afraid of the monsters of the lower world that were once believed in? The years obliterate the inventions of the imagination, but confirm the judgements of nature. "Hence both in our own nation and among all others reverence for the gods and respect for religion grow continually stronger and more profound.
3. Cicero, Tusculan Disputations, 1.10-1.11 (2nd cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

1.10. num nunc ex. num K 1 te illa terrent, triceps apud inferos Cerberus, Cocyti coyc ti R 1 fremitus, travectio traiectio ex trav. K 1 transv. V c mg. ('al trans') g Trag. inc.111 Acherontis, mento summam aquam aquam trisyll. cf. Lachm. ad Lucr. 6, 552 quam Nonii L 1 A A attingens amnem Bue. adtinget ( vel -it) senextus Nonii L 1 A A enectus siti Tantalus? summam... tantalus Non. 401,29 enectus ... Tantalus Prisc, GL 2, 470, 18 tantulus X ( corr. K 2 ) Nonii et Prisciani pars tum illud, quod Sisyphus sisyphius X ( sed 2. eras. in V. sis. K 1 aut c ) Nonii pars versat versus? cf. Marx ad Lucil. 1375 saxum sudans nitendo neque proficit hilum? tum ... hlium Non. 121,4; 353, 8. fortasse etiam inexorabiles iudices, Minos et Rhadamanthus? apud quos nec te L. Crassus defendet defendet om. RK 1 ( add. 2 ) nec M. Antonius nec, quoniam apud Graecos iudices res agetur, poteris adhibere Demosthenen; demostenen K tibi ipsi pro te erit maxima corona causa dicenda. dicenda causa K haec fortasse metuis et idcirco mortem censes esse sempiternum malum. Adeone me delirare censes, ut ista esse credam? An tu ante G 1 haec non an tu an non ( 2. an in r. ) V 1? credis? Minime vero. Male hercule narras. Cur? quaeso. Quia disertus dissertus KR 1 esse possem, si contra ista dicerem. Quis enim non in eius modi causa? aut quid negotii est haec poëtarum et pictorum portenta convincere? aut convincere Non. 375, 29 1.11. Atqui pleni libri sunt contra ista ipsa disserentium dissenentium G 1 (dissotium corr. G 1? ) RV 1 ( corr. ipse? ) diserentium K philosophorum. Inepte sane. quis enim est est om. K 1, add. c tam excors, quem ista moveant? commoveant V 2 Si ergo apud inferos miseri non sunt, ne sunt quidem apud inferos ulli. Ita prorsus prossus G existimo. Ubi sunt Inde ab ubi - 223, 24 iam sunt multa in K madore corrupta ergo i, quos miseros dicis, aut quem locum incolunt? si enim sunt, nusquam esse non possunt. Ego vero nusquam esse illos puto. Igitur ne esse quidem? Prorsus isto modo, et tamen miseros miseros cf. Serv. Aen. 4, 20 ob id ipsum quidem, quidem om. K quia nulli sint.
4. Lucretius Carus, On The Nature of Things, 1.188-1.190, 3.296-3.307, 4.129-4.140, 4.732-4.748, 5.878-5.889, 5.920-5.924 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

5. Ovid, Tristia, 4.7.11-4.7.18 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. CE)

6. Vergil, Aeneis, 7.674-7.675 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

7.674. blew a wild signal on a shepherd's horn 7.675. outflinging her infernal note so far
7. Seneca The Younger, De Consolatione Ad Marciam, 19.4-19.5 (1st cent. CE - 1st cent. CE)

8. Seneca The Younger, Letters, 24.18, 36.10, 54.4-54.5, 82.14 (1st cent. CE - 1st cent. CE)



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adynata Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
aetna Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
animals, in lucretius Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
body, imprisonment of the soul Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471
body politic, reincarnation Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471
centaurs Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
ceres Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
cicero Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471, 486
contemplation, cosmos, contemplation of Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 486
cyclopes Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
death, afterlife Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471, 486
death, consolatory writings Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471, 486
death, socrates death Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 486
death, suicide Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471
emotions, fear Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471
epicurus Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471
ethics Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 486
experience, religious, feelings Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471, 486
giants Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
gods, in the georgics Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
hades Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471
horses Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
knowledge, wise man Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 486
lucretius, animals in Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
lucretius, myth in Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
lucretius Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471
metamorphosis Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
monsters Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
myth, in lucretius Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
myth, in the georgics Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
mythology Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471
palaephatus Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
plato, platonism Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471
politics and religion Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471
prometheus Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
remythologization Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
seneca Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471, 486
soul, life as punishment of soul Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471
soul Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471, 486
stoicism, stoic views' Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 486
stoicism, stoic views Rüpke, The individual in the religions of the ancient Mediterranean (2014) 471
typhoeus Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
virgil, reception of lucretius Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
xenophanes Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123
zoogony Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 123