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Plato, Phaedo, 81

nan really practiced being in a state of death: or is not this the practice of death?" "By all means." "Then if it is in such a condition, it goes away into that which is like itself, into the invisible, divine, immortal, and wise, and when it arrives there it is happy, freed from error and folly and fear and fierce loves and all the other human ills, and as the initiated say, lives in truth through all after time with the gods. Is this our belief, Cebes, or not?" "Assuredly," said Cebes. "But, I think, if when it departs from the body it is defiled and impure, because it was always with the body and cared for it and loved it and was fascinated by it and its desires and pleasures, so that it thought nothing was true except the corporeal, which one can touch and see and drink and eat and employ in the pleasures of love, and if it is accustomed to hate and fear and avoid that which is shadowy and invisible to the eyes but is intelligible and tangible to philosophy — do you think a soul in this condition will depart pure and uncontaminated?" "By no means," said he. "But it will be interpenetrated, I suppose, with the corporeal which intercourse and communion with the body have made a part of its nature because the body has been its constant companion and the object of its care?" "Certainly." "And, my friend, we must believe that the corporeal is burdensome and heavy and earthly and visible. And such a soul is weighed down by this and is dragged back into the visible world, through fear of the invisible and of the other world, and so, as they say, it flits about the monuments and the tombs, where shadowy shapes of souls have been seen, figures of those souls which were not set free in purity but retain something of the visible; and this is why they are seen." "That is likely, Socrates." "It is likely, Cebes. And it is likely that those are not the souls of the good, but those of the base, which are compelled to flit about such places as a punishment for their former evil mode of life. And they flit about until through the desire of the corporeal which clings to them they are again imprisoned in a body. And they are likely to be imprisoned in natures which correspond to the practices of their former life." "What natures do you mean, Socrates?" "I mean, for example, that those who have indulged in gluttony and violence and drunkenness, and have taken no pains to avoid them, are likely to pass into the bodies of asses and other beasts of that sort.

Intertexts (texts cited often on the same page as the searched text):

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1. Plato, Apology of Socrates, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE) 41c. or Odysseus, or Sisyphus, or countless others, both men and women, whom I might mention? To converse and associate with them and examine them would be immeasurable happiness. At any rate, the folk there do not kill people for it; since, if what we are told is true, they are immortal for all future time, besides being happier in other respects than men are here.But you also, judges, must regard death hopefully and must bear in mind this one truth
2. Plato, Cratylus, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE) 398b. Hermogenes. Quite likely. Socrates. But the good are the wise, are they not? Hermogenes. Yes, they are the wise. Socrates. This, then, I think, is what he certainly means to say of the spirits: because they were wise and knowing ( δαήμονες ) he called them spirits ( δαίμονες ) and in the old form of our language the two words are the same. Now he and all the other poets are right, who say that when a good man die
3. Plato, Gorgias, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)
4. Plato, Laws, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE) 726a. Ath. Let everyone who has just heard the ordices concerning gods and dear forefathers now give ear. of all a man’s own belongings, the most divine is his soul, since it is most his own. A man’s own belongings are invariably twofold: the stronger and better are the ruling elements, the weaker and worse those that serve; wherefore of one’s own belongings one must honor those that rule above those that serve.
5. Plato, Meno, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE) 81c. glorious kings and men of splendid might and surpassing wisdom, and for all remaining time are they called holy heroes amongst mankind. Pind. Fr. 133 Bergk Seeing then that the soul is immortal and has been born many times, and has beheld all things both in this world and in the nether realms, she has acquired knowledge of all and everything; so that it is no wonder that she should be able to recollect all that she knew before about virtue and other things. For a
6. Plato, Phaedo, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE) 114d. Now it would not be fitting for a man of sense to maintain that all this is just as I have described it, but that this or something like it is true concerning our souls and their abodes, since the soul is shown to be immortal, I think he may properly and worthily venture to believe; for the venture is well worth while; and he ought to repeat such things to himself as if they were magic charms, which is the reason why I have been lengthening out the story so long. This then is why a man should be of good cheer about his soul, who in his life
7. Plato, Phaedrus, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)
8. Plato, Philebus, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE) 39e. but not to the future? Pro. To the future especially. Soc. Do you say to the future especially because they are all hopes relating to the future and we are always filled with hopes all our lives? Pro. Precisely. Soc. Well, here is a further question for you to answer. Pro. What is it? Soc. A just, pious, and good man is surely a friend of the gods, is he not? Pro. Certainly. Soc. And an unjust and thoroughly bad man
9. Plato, Republic, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE) 498c. the bodily strength declines and they are past the age of political and military service, then at last they should be given free range of the pasture and do nothing but philosophize, except incidentally, if they are to live happily, and, when the end has come, crown the life they have lived with a consot destiny in that other world.
10. Plato, Symposium, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)
11. Plato, Timaeus, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE) 34c. God did not likewise plan it to be younger than the body; for, when uniting them, He would not have permitted the elder to be ruled by the younger; but as for us men, even as we ourselves partake largely of the accidental and casual, so also do our words. God, however, constructed Soul to be older than Body and prior in birth and excellence, since she was to be the mistress and ruler and it the ruled; and, He made her of the material
12. Plutarch, Cato The Younger, 68.2-68.3, 70.1 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)
13. Diogenes Laertius, Lives of The Philosophers, 8.39 (3rd cent. CE - 3rd cent. CE) 8.39. Pythagoras met his death in this wise. As he sat one day among his acquaintances at the house of Milo, it chanced that the house was set ablaze out of jealousy by one of the people who were not accounted worthy of admittance to his presence, though some say it was the work of the inhabitants of Croton anxious to safeguard themselves against the setting-up of a tyranny. Pythagoras was caught as he tried to escape; he got as far as a certain field of beans, where he stopped, saying he would be captured rather than cross it, and be killed rather than prate about his doctrines; and so his pursuers cut his throat. So also were murdered more than half of his disciples, to the number of forty or thereabouts; but a very few escaped, including Archippus of Tarentum and Lysis, already mentioned.
14. Gregory of Nyssa, Life of Makrina, 18, 12 (4th cent. CE - 4th cent. CE)

Subjects of this text:

subject	book bibliographic info
anthropology	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 132
basil of caesarea	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 132
body	Delcomminette, d’Hoine, and Gavray, Ancient Readings of Plato’s Phaedo (2015) 82
burkert, walter	Eidinow and Kindt, The Oxford Handbook of Ancient Greek Religion (2015) 218
cato the younger	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 189, 190
cause/causality	Delcomminette, d’Hoine, and Gavray, Ancient Readings of Plato’s Phaedo (2015) 82
christianity	Eidinow and Kindt, The Oxford Handbook of Ancient Greek Religion (2015) 218
death	Delcomminette, d’Hoine, and Gavray, Ancient Readings of Plato’s Phaedo (2015) 82
death and the afterlife	Eidinow and Kindt, The Oxford Handbook of Ancient Greek Religion (2015) 218
dionysos (bacchus, god)	Eidinow and Kindt, The Oxford Handbook of Ancient Greek Religion (2015) 218
edmonds iii, radcliffe g.	Eidinow and Kindt, The Oxford Handbook of Ancient Greek Religion (2015) 218
emmelia	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 132
eyewitness	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 190
fraenkel, carlos	Eidinow and Kindt, The Oxford Handbook of Ancient Greek Religion (2015) 218
healing, purification ritual and law	Eidinow and Kindt, The Oxford Handbook of Ancient Greek Religion (2015) 218
immaterial	Delcomminette, d’Hoine, and Gavray, Ancient Readings of Plato’s Phaedo (2015) 82
job	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 132
judgment	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 190
matter	Delcomminette, d’Hoine, and Gavray, Ancient Readings of Plato’s Phaedo (2015) 82
morgan, michael l.	Eidinow and Kindt, The Oxford Handbook of Ancient Greek Religion (2015) 218
nature, human	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 132
peter, brother of gregory	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 132
philosophy'	Eidinow and Kindt, The Oxford Handbook of Ancient Greek Religion (2015) 218
plato, ethics	Eidinow and Kindt, The Oxford Handbook of Ancient Greek Religion (2015) 218
plato	Eidinow and Kindt, The Oxford Handbook of Ancient Greek Religion (2015) 218
platonism, christian	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 132
platonism, in comparanda	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 190
platonism, middle	Delcomminette, d’Hoine, and Gavray, Ancient Readings of Plato’s Phaedo (2015) 82
platonism, phaedo	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 132, 189, 190
plutarch	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 189, 190
principles (in the metaphysical sense)	Delcomminette, d’Hoine, and Gavray, Ancient Readings of Plato’s Phaedo (2015) 82
psychology	Delcomminette, d’Hoine, and Gavray, Ancient Readings of Plato’s Phaedo (2015) 82
pythagoreanism	Eidinow and Kindt, The Oxford Handbook of Ancient Greek Religion (2015) 218
reason	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 132
resurrection	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 132
seneca	Delcomminette, d’Hoine, and Gavray, Ancient Readings of Plato’s Phaedo (2015) 82
socrates	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 132, 190
soul, seat of virtue	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 132
stoicism	Delcomminette, d’Hoine, and Gavray, Ancient Readings of Plato’s Phaedo (2015) 82; Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 189, 190
suicide	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 189, 190
synkrisis, biblical	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 132
teachers, macrina	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 132
thanatos, last words	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 189, 190
thanatos, witnesses reactions	Gray, Gregory of Nyssa as Biographer: Weaving Lives for Virtuous Readers (2021) 190
west, martin l.	Eidinow and Kindt, The Oxford Handbook of Ancient Greek Religion (2015) 218