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Origen, Fragments On Psalms 1-150, 4
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1. New Testament, Hebrews, 4.15 (1st cent. CE - 1st cent. CE)

4.15. For we don't have a high priest who can't be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, but one who has been in all points tempted like we are, yet without sin.
2. New Testament, Matthew, 26.37 (1st cent. CE - 1st cent. CE)

26.37. He took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and severely troubled.
3. Clement of Alexandria, Miscellanies, 2.20 (2nd cent. CE - 3rd cent. CE)

4. Athanasius, Life of Anthony, 55 (3rd cent. CE - 4th cent. CE)

5. Origen, On First Principles, 3.1.4, 3.2.2 (3rd cent. CE - 3rd cent. CE)

3.1.4. If any one now were to say that those things which happen to us from an external cause, and call forth our movements, are of such a nature that it is impossible to resist them, whether they incite us to good or evil, let the holder of this opinion turn his attention for a little upon himself, and carefully inspect the movements of his own mind, unless he has discovered already, that when an enticement to any desire arises, nothing is accomplished until the assent of the soul is gained, and the authority of the mind has granted indulgence to the wicked suggestion; so that a claim might seem to be made by two parties on certain probable grounds as to a judge residing within the tribunals of our heart, in order that, after the statement of reasons, the decree of execution may proceed from the judgment of reason. For, to take an illustration: if, to a man who has determined to live continently and chastely, and to keep himself free from all pollution with women, a woman should happen to present herself, inciting and alluring him to act contrary to his purpose, that woman is not a complete and absolute cause or necessity of his transgressing, since it is in his power, by remembering his resolution, to bridle the incitements to lust, and by the stern admonitions of virtue to restrain the pleasure of the allurement that solicits him; so that, all feeling of indulgence being driven away, his determination may remain firm and enduring. Finally, if to any men of learning, strengthened by divine training, allurements of that kind present themselves, remembering immediately what they are, and calling to mind what has long been the subject of their meditation and instruction, and fortifying themselves by the support of a holier doctrine, they reject and repel all incitement to pleasure, and drive away opposing lusts by the interposition of the reason implanted within them. 3.1.4. But if any one maintain that this very external cause is of such a nature that it is impossible to resist it when it comes in such a way, let him turn his attention to his own feelings and movements, (and see) whether there is not an approval, and assent, and inclination of the controlling principle towards some object on account of some specious arguments. For, to take an instance, a woman who has appeared before a man that has determined to be chaste, and to refrain from carnal intercourse, and who has incited him to act contrary to his purpose, is not a perfect cause of annulling his determination. For, being altogether pleased with the luxury and allurement of the pleasure, and not wishing to resist it, or to keep his purpose, he commits an act of licentiousness. Another man, again (when the same things have happened to him who has received more instruction, and has disciplined himself ), encounters, indeed, allurements and enticements; but his reason, as being strengthened to a higher point, and carefully trained, and confirmed in its views towards a virtuous course, or being near to confirmation, repels the incitement, and extinguishes the desire. 3.2.2. We, however, who see the reason (of the thing) more clearly, do not hold this opinion, taking into account those (sins) which manifestly originate as a necessary consequence of our bodily constitution. Must we indeed suppose that the devil is the cause of our feeling hunger or thirst? Nobody, I think, will venture to maintain that. If, then, he is not the cause of our feeling hunger and thirst, wherein lies the difference when each individual has attained the age of puberty, and that period has called forth the incentives of the natural heat? It will undoubtedly follow, that as the devil is not the cause of our feeling hunger and thirst, so neither is he the cause of that appetency which naturally arises at the time of maturity, viz., the desire of sexual intercourse. Now it is certain that this cause is not always so set in motion by the devil that we should be obliged to suppose that bodies would nor possess a desire for intercourse of that kind if the devil did not exist. Let us consider, in the next place, if, as we have already shown, food is desired by human beings, not from a suggestion of the devil, but by a kind of natural instinct, whether, if there were no devil, it were possible for human experience to exhibit such restraint in partaking of food as never to exceed the proper limits; i.e., that no one would either take otherwise than the case required, or more than reason would allow; and so it would result that men, observing due measure and moderation in the matter of eating, would never go wrong. I do not think, indeed, that so great moderation could be observed by men (even if there were no instigation by the devil inciting thereto), as that no individual, in partaking of food, would go beyond due limits and restraint, until he had learned to do so from long usage and experience. What, then, is the state of the case? In the matter of eating and drinking it was possible for us to go wrong, even without any incitement from the devil, if we should happen to be either less temperate or less careful (than we ought); and are we to suppose, then, in our appetite for sexual intercourse, or in the restraint of our natural desires, our condition is not something similar? I am of opinion, indeed, that the same course of reasoning must be understood to apply to other natural movements as those of covetousness, or of anger, or of sorrow, or of all those generally which through the vice of intemperance exceed the natural bounds of moderation. There are therefore manifest reasons for holding the opinion, that as in good things the human will is of itself weak to accomplish any good (for it is by divine help that it is brought to perfection in everything); so also, in things of an opposite nature we receive certain initial elements, and, as it were, seeds of sins, from those things which we use agreeably to nature; but when we have indulged them beyond what is proper, and have not resisted the first movements to intemperance, then the hostile power, seizing the occasion of this first transgression, incites and presses us hard in every way, seeking to extend our sins over a wider field, and furnishing us human beings with occasions and beginnings of sins, which these hostile powers spread far and wide, and, if possible, beyond all limits. Thus, when men at first for a little desire money, covetousness begins to grow as the passion increases, and finally the fall into avarice takes place. And after this, when blindness of mind has succeeded passion, and the hostile powers, by their suggestions, hurry on the mind, money is now no longer desired, but stolen, and acquired by force, or even by shedding human blood. Finally, a confirmatory evidence of the fact that vices of such enormity proceed from demons, may be easily seen in this, that those individuals who are oppressed either by immoderate love, or incontrollable anger, or excessive sorrow, do not suffer less than those who are bodily vexed by devils. For it is recorded in certain histories, that some have fallen into madness from a state of love, others from a state of anger, not a few from a state of sorrow, and even from one of excessive joy; which results, I think, from this, that those opposing powers, i.e., those demons, having gained a lodgment in their minds which has been already laid open to them by intemperance, have taken complete possession of their sensitive nature, especially when no feeling of the glory of virtue has aroused them to resistance.
6. Origen, Fragments On Psalms 1-150, 54-55, 38 (3rd cent. CE - 3rd cent. CE)

7. Porphyry, On Abstinence, 2.39.3 (3rd cent. CE - 4th cent. CE)



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antony, st, hermit, demons stir upemotions Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348
apatheia, freedom from, eradication of, emotion (; did christ exhibit apatheia? Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348, 351
augustine, bad thoughts and suggestions Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348
cassian, john, founder of monastery at monte cassino, bad thoughts Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348
christ, did christ have emotions? Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348, 351
christian authors, use of ζῷον λογικόν Dürr, Paul on the Human Vocation: Reason Language in Romans and Ancient Philosophical Tradition (2022) 56
christology, natures of christ, didymus the blind Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 351
clement of alexandria, church father, demons play a role in producing emotion Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348
climacus, christian ascetic, first movements as bad thoughts Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348
demons, source of bad thoughts and emotions Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348, 351
diadochus, bishopof photice, bad thoughts Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348
diadochus, bishopof photice, christ's human nature" Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 351
didymus the blind, teacher of rufinus and jerome Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343, 351
first movements, also called prepassion Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343
first movements, bad thoughts, antony Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348
first movements, because distinct from assent and judgement Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348
first movements, didymus the blind Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343, 351
first movements, first movements as bad thoughts Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348
first movements, jerome Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343
first movements, mentioned by philo of alexandria Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343
first movements, origen Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343, 348, 351
first movements, philo of alexandria Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343
graver, margaret Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343
jerome, st, church father, connects pre-passion with bad thoughts Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348
knuuttila, simo Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343
la bonnardière, a.-m. Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343
lottin, o. Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343
origen, church father, connects first movements with bad thoughts, thus blurring distinction from emotion Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343, 348, 351
philo of alexandria, jewish philosopher, first movements applied to biblical stories Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343
plested, marcus Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348
pohlenz, max Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343
porphyry, neoplatonist, demons stir upemotions Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348
proairesis, origen Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 351
progressing Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 351
ps.-makarios (makarios, desert father, mentor of evagrius) , bad thoughts' Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 348
rufinus, christian, translator into latin Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343, 348
saarinen, risto Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343
zeno of citium, stoic, hence different conception of freedom from emotion(apatheia) Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 343, 348, 351
ζῷον λογικόν, corpus-assisted investigation of phrase Dürr, Paul on the Human Vocation: Reason Language in Romans and Ancient Philosophical Tradition (2022) 56
ζῷον λογικόν, human beings as Dürr, Paul on the Human Vocation: Reason Language in Romans and Ancient Philosophical Tradition (2022) 56
ζῷον λογικόν, used in second century ad Dürr, Paul on the Human Vocation: Reason Language in Romans and Ancient Philosophical Tradition (2022) 56
νοῦς (lexeme family), and ζωὴ λογική Dürr, Paul on the Human Vocation: Reason Language in Romans and Ancient Philosophical Tradition (2022) 56