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1. Cicero, On The Ends of Good And Evil, 2.15, 3.1, 3.3-3.4 (2nd cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

2.15. Satisne igitur videor vim verborum tenere, an sum etiam nunc vel Graece loqui vel Latine docendus? et tamen vide, ne, si ego non intellegam quid Epicurus loquatur, cum Graece, ut videor, luculenter sciam, sit aliqua culpa eius, qui ita loquatur, ut non intellegatur. quod duobus modis sine reprehensione fit, si aut de industria facias, ut Heraclitus, 'cognomento qui skoteino/s perhibetur, quia de natura nimis obscure memoravit', aut cum rerum obscuritas, non verborum, facit ut non intellegatur oratio, qualis est in Timaeo Platonis. Epicurus autem, ut opinor, nec non vult, si possit, plane et aperte loqui, nec de re obscura, ut physici, aut artificiosa, ut mathematici, sed de illustri et facili et iam et iam P. Man. etiam (eciam V) in vulgus pervagata loquitur. loquitur (i in ras. ) N loquatur ( etiam A) Quamquam non negatis nos intellegere quid sit voluptas, sed quid ille dicat. e quo efficitur, non ut nos non intellegamus quae vis sit istius verbi, sed ut ille suo more loquatur, nostrum neglegat. 3.1. Voluptatem quidem, Brute, si ipsa pro se loquatur nec tam pertinaces habeat patronos, concessuram arbitror convictam superiore libro dignitati. etenim sit inpudens, si virtuti diutius repugnet, aut si honestis honestis honestati NV iucunda anteponat aut pluris esse contendat dulcedinem corporis ex eave natam laetitiam quam gravitatem animi atque constantiam. quare illam quidem dimittamus et suis se finibus tenere tenere (ten ab alt. m. in ras. ) N petere iubeamus, ne blanditiis eius inlecebrisque impediatur disputandi severitas. 3.3. ipse etiam dicit dicit cf. p. 13, 24—29 Epicurus ne ne nec RNV argumentandum quidem esse de voluptate, quod sit positum iudicium eius in sensibus, ut commoneri nos satis sit, nihil attineat doceri. quare illa nobis simplex fuit in utramque partem disputatio. nec enim in Torquati sermone quicquam sermone quicquam VN 2 sermone nec quicquam (quitquam ABE) implicatum inpl. R aut tortuosum fuit, nostraque, ut mihi videtur, dilucida oratio. Stoicorum autem non ignoras quam sit subtile vel spinosum potius disserendi genus, idque cum Graecis tum magis nobis, quibus etiam verba parienda sunt inponendaque nova rebus novis nomina. quod quidem nemo mediocriter doctus mirabitur cogitans in omni arte, cuius usus vulgaris communisque non sit, multam novitatem nominum esse, cum constituantur earum rerum vocabula, quae in quaque arte versentur. 3.4. itaque et dialectici et physici verbis utuntur iis, quae ipsi Graeciae nota non non BENV om. AR sint, sint Mdv. sunt geometrae vero et musici, grammatici etiam more quodam loquuntur suo. ipsae rhetorum artes, quae sunt totae forenses atque populares, verbis tamen in docendo quasi privatis utuntur ac suis. atque ut omittam has artis elegantes et ingenuas, ne opifices opifices N opificis AER opositis B opifex V quidem tueri sua artificia possent, nisi vocabulis uterentur nobis incognitis, usitatis sibi. quin etiam agri cultura, quae abhorret ab omni politiore elegantia, tamen eas eas V ea res, in quibus versatur, nominibus notavit novis. quo magis hoc philosopho faciendum est. ars est enim philosophia vitae, de qua disserens arripere verba de foro non potest. 2.15.  "Well, do you think I have properly grasped the meaning of the terms, or do I still require lessons in the use of either Greek or Latin? And even supposing that I do not understand what Epicurus says, still I believe I really have a very clear knowledge of Greek, so that perhaps it is partly his fault for using such unintelligible language. Obscurity is excusable on two grounds: it may be deliberately adopted, as in the case of Heraclitus, The surname of the Obscure who bore, So dark his philosophic lore; or the obscurity may be due to the abstruseness of the subject and not of the style — an instance of this is Plato's Timaeus. But Epicurus, in my opinion, has no intention of not speaking plainly and clearly if he can, nor is he discussing a recondite subject like natural philosophy, nor a technical subject such as mathematics, but a lucid and easy topic, and one that is generally familiar already. And yet you Epicureans do not deny that we understand what pleasure is, but what he means by it; which proves not that we do not understand the real meaning of the word, but that Epicurus is speaking an idiom of his own and ignoring our accepted terminology. 3.1.  My dear Brutus. — Were Pleasure to speak for herself, in default of such redoubtable advocates as she now has to defend her, my belief is that she would own defeat. Vanquished by the arguments of our preceding Book, she would yield the victory to true Worth. Indeed she would be lost to shame if she persisted any longer in the battle against Virtue, and rated what is pleasant above what is morally good, or maintained that bodily enjoyment or the mental gratification which springs from it is of higher value than firmness and dignity of character. Let us then give Pleasure her dismissal, and bid her keep within her own domains, lest her charms and blandishments put snares in the way of strict philosophical debate. 3.3.  In fact Epicurus himself declares that there is no occasion to argue about pleasure at all: its criterion resides in the senses, so that proof is entirely superfluous; a reminder of the facts is all that is needed. Therefore our preceding debate consisted of a simple statement of the case on either side. There was nothing abstruse or intricate in the discourse of Torquatus, and my own exposition was, I believe, as clear as daylight. But the Stoics, as you are aware, affect an exceedingly subtle or rather crabbed style of argument; and if the Greeks find it so, still more must we, who have actually to create a vocabulary, and to invent new terms to convey new ideas. This necessity will cause no surprise to anyone of moderate learning, when he reflects that in every branch of science lying outside the range of common everyday practice there must always be a large degree of novelty in the vocabulary, when it comes to fixing a terminology to denote the conceptions with which the science in question deals. 3.4.  Thus Logic and Natural Philosophy alike make use of terms unfamiliar even to Greece; Geometry, Music, Grammar also, have an idiom of their own. Even the manuals of Rhetoric, which belong entirely to the practical sphere and to the life of the world, nevertheless employ for purposes of instruction a sort of private and peculiar phraseology. And to leave out of account these liberal arts and accomplishments, even artisans would be unable to preserve the tradition of their crafts if they did not make use of words unknown to us though familiar to themselves. Nay, agriculture itself, a subject entirely unsusceptible of literary refinement, has yet had to coin technical terms to denote the things with which it is occupied. All the more is the philosopher compelled to do likewise; for philosophy is the Science of Life, and cannot treat its subject in language taken from the street.
2. Horace, Odes, 1.11.1-1.11.2 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

3. Horace, Sermones, 1.1-1.3, 1.2.78, 1.3.98-1.3.99, 1.3.109, 1.3.111, 1.3.115, 1.4.53, 1.10.26, 1.10.31-1.10.35, 2.6.4-2.6.5 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

1.1. 1. I suppose that, by my books of the Antiquities of the Jews, most excellent Epaphroditus, I have made it evident to those who peruse them, that our Jewish nation is of very great antiquity, and had a distinct subsistence of its own originally; as also I have therein declared how we came to inhabit this country wherein we now live. Those Antiquities contain the history of five thousand years, and are taken out of our sacred books; but are translated by me into the Greek tongue. 1.1. but as for the place where the Grecians inhabit, ten thousand destructions have overtaken it, and blotted out the memory of former actions; so that they were ever beginning a new way of living, and supposed that every one of them was the origin of their new state. It was also late, and with difficulty, that they came to know the letters they now use; for those who would advance their use of these letters to the greatest antiquity pretend that they learned them from the Phoenicians and from Cadmus; 1.1. but after some considerable time, Armais, who was left in Egypt, did all those very things, by way of opposition, which his brother had forbidden him to do, without fear; for he used violence to the queen, and continued to make use of the rest of the concubines, without sparing any of them; nay, at the persuasion of his friends he put on the diadem, and set up to oppose his brother; 1.2. However, since I observe a considerable number of people giving ear to the reproaches that are laid against us by those who bear ill will to us, and will not believe what I have written concerning the antiquity of our nation, while they take it for a plain sign that our nation is of a late date, because they are not so much as vouchsafed a bare mention by the most famous historiographers among the Grecians 1.2. for if we remember, that in the beginning the Greeks had taken no care to have public records of their several transactions preserved, this must for certain have afforded those that would afterward write about those ancient transactions, the opportunity of making mistakes, and the power of making lies also; 1.2. Moreover, he attests that we Jews, went as auxiliaries along with king Alexander, and after him with his successors. I will add farther what he says he learned when he was himself with the same army, concerning the actions of a man that was a Jew. His words are these:— 1.3. I therefore have thought myself under an obligation to write somewhat briefly about these subjects, in order to convict those that reproach us of spite and voluntary falsehood, and to correct the ignorance of others, and withal to instruct all those who are desirous of knowing the truth of what great antiquity we really are. 1.3. 7. For our forefathers did not only appoint the best of these priests, and those that attended upon the divine worship, for that design from the beginning, but made provision that the stock of the priests should continue unmixed and pure; 1.3. Besides all this, Ramesses, the son of Amenophis, by Manetho’s account, was a young man, and assisted his father in his war, and left the country at the same time with him, and fled into Ethiopia: but Cheremon makes him to have been born in a certain cave, after his father was dead, and that he then overcame the Jews in battle, and drove them into Syria, being in number about two hundred thousand.
4. Lucretius Carus, On The Nature of Things, 1.102-1.145, 1.161-1.179, 1.192-1.195, 1.208-1.214, 1.227-1.231, 1.250-1.634, 1.988-1.1082, 1.1102-1.1112, 2.67-2.79, 2.81, 2.168, 2.172, 2.184-2.307, 2.312-2.313, 2.317-2.380, 2.398-2.580, 2.1030-2.1039, 2.1041-2.1057, 2.1059-2.1062, 2.1081-2.1083, 2.1090-2.1117, 2.1122-2.1145, 2.1150-2.1174, 3.417, 3.445-3.458, 3.670-3.783, 3.970-3.971, 4.35-4.41, 4.43, 4.733-4.734, 4.760-4.761, 5.165-5.173, 5.195-5.508, 5.735, 5.772-5.1028, 5.1030-5.1457, 6.1-6.7, 6.26-6.27, 6.33-6.34, 6.36-6.38, 6.42-6.422, 6.1138-6.1286 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

5. Ovid, Ars Amatoria, 2.425, 2.470, 2.477 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. CE)

6. Vergil, Georgics, 1.185-1.186 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

1.185. Set mortals on with tools to turn the sod 1.186. When now the awful groves 'gan fail to bear
7. Vitruvius Pollio, On Architecture, 1.1.3, 1.1.8, 2.1.5 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

8. Diogenes Laertius, Lives of The Philosophers, 10.13 (3rd cent. CE - 3rd cent. CE)

10.13. Apollodorus in his Chronology tells us that our philosopher was a pupil of Nausiphanes and Praxiphanes; but in his letter to Eurylochus, Epicurus himself denies it and says that he was self-taught. Both Epicurus and Hermarchus deny the very existence of Leucippus the philosopher, though by some and by Apollodorus the Epicurean he is said to have been the teacher of Democritus. Demetrius the Magnesian affirms that Epicurus also attended the lectures of Xenocrates.The terms he used for things were the ordinary terms, and Aristophanes the grammarian credits him with a very characteristic style. He was so lucid a writer that in the work On Rhetoric he makes clearness the sole requisite.
9. Epicurus, Letter To Herodotus, 76, 75

10. Epicurus, Kuriai Doxai, 33, 37, 31



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subject book bibliographic info
adultery Günther, Brill's Companion to Horace (2012) 85
analogy Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 88
arbitrariness, arbitrary fancy, libido Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 8
armstrong, david Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 147
articulation Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 44
artificial Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 44
athens Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 22
atoms Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
auctoritas Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
bailey, cyril Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 147
bion of borysthenes, on apathy Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 147
body, metaphor for speech and text, greek Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
body, metaphor for speech and text Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
body Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
causation Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
cicero, prosecution of piso Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 49
cicero, verbal coinages Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 147
clash of atoms Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
convention, conventionalism Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 8, 44
corpus architecturae Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
creation Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
culture and civilization, origin Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 44
cycle of growth and decay, in lucretius Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 22
daedalus and icarus Williams and Vol, Philosophy in Ovid, Ovid as Philosopher (2022) 76
de architectura, and greek knowledge Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
de architectura, universalizing Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
death, in lucretius Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 22
definition Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
demonic possession Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
design/purpose Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 88
dio chrysostom Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 44
diodorus siculus Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
diogenes of oinoanda Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 44
dreams Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 22
economics, epicurean, economics, philodemus account of Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 49
epicureanism, epicureans Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
epicurus, epicureanism Günther, Brill's Companion to Horace (2012) 85
epicurus/epicureanism, hedonic calculus Williams and Vol, Philosophy in Ovid, Ovid as Philosopher (2022) 76
epicurus/epicureanism Williams and Vol, Philosophy in Ovid, Ovid as Philosopher (2022) 76
epicurus Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 8, 44
evolution Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
finales, in lucretius Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 22
gastronomy Günther, Brill's Companion to Horace (2012) 85
gesture Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 8
gods, divine control (lack of) Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 88
gods, providence Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 88
gravitation Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
herodotus Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
imposition thesis Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 44
indelli, giovanni Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 147
intelligent design Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
invention, inventors of crafts Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 44
language, linguistic, development, change, history of Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 8
language, linguistic, origin Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 8
linguistic naturalism Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 8
livy Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
lucilius Günther, Brill's Companion to Horace (2012) 85
lucretius, cycle of growth and decay in Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 22
lucretius, death in Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 22
lucretius Günther, Brill's Companion to Horace (2012) 85; Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 8, 44; Williams and Vol, Philosophy in Ovid, Ovid as Philosopher (2022) 76
madness, insanity, mental disorder Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
maiestas Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
mcosker, michael Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 147
mechanical movements Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
menippus of gadara, mercury, evocations of Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 49
meteorology, thunder Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 88
meteorology Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 88
miller, john f. Williams and Vol, Philosophy in Ovid, Ovid as Philosopher (2022) 76
mithres, identification Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 49
name-givers onomathetai, impositores Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 8
natural phenomena Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
obscenity Günther, Brill's Companion to Horace (2012) 85
oikonomia Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
oltramare, andré Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 147
ovid, and epicurus Williams and Vol, Philosophy in Ovid, Ovid as Philosopher (2022) 76
ovid, hedonic calculus in Williams and Vol, Philosophy in Ovid, Ovid as Philosopher (2022) 76
philodemus of gadara, on economics Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 49
philodemus of gadara, relationship with piso Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 49
philosophers Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
piso Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 49
plague Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 22; Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
polemics Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
posidonius Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 44
proems, in lucretius Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 22
quirinus Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 147
reason, rationality ratio Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 8, 44
religio Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
satires (horace), treatment of relationship with maecenas Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 49
science Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
sextus empiricus Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 44
size Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
sounds, animal Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 8
stoicism Günther, Brill's Companion to Horace (2012) 85
stoics/stoicism, condemned by horace Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 147
stoics and stoicism Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 44
strabo Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
time Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
tsouna(-mckirahan), voula Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 147
universe Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
usefulness utilitas Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 8
utilitasutility Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
vacuum, void Rohmann, Christianity, Book-Burning and Censorship in Late Antiquity (2016) 155
venus Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 22
vergil, georgics Yona, Epicurean Ethics in Horace: The Psychology of Satire (2018) 49
vitruvius, and history Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
vitruvius, auctoritas Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
vitruvius, doubts about reliability Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
volumina Oksanish, Vitruvian Man: Rome Under Construction (2019) 103
words, derivative Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 44
words, primitive, primordial stoicheia, protai phonai /lexeis, cunabula, impositicia uerba' Pezzini and Taylor,Language and Nature in the Classical Roman World (2019)" 44