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Lucretius Carus, On The Nature Of Things, 3.12-3.30
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1. Epicurus, Letter To Menoeceus, 135 (4th cent. BCE - 3rd cent. BCE)

2. Cicero, On The Ends of Good And Evil, 2.7 (2nd cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

2.7. istam voluptatem, inquit, Epicurus ignorat? Non semper, inquam; nam interdum nimis nimis minus R etiam novit, quippe qui testificetur ne intellegere quidem se posse ubi sit aut quod sit ullum bonum praeter illud, quod cibo et potione et aurium delectatione et obscena voluptate capiatur. an haec ab eo non dicuntur? Quasi vero me pudeat, inquit, istorum, aut non possim quem ad modum ea dicantur ostendere! Ego vero non dubito, inquam, quin facile possis, nec est quod te pudeat sapienti adsentiri, qui se unus, quod sciam, sapientem profiteri sit ausus. nam Metrodorum non puto ipsum professum, sed, cum appellaretur ab Epicuro, repudiare tantum beneficium noluisse; septem autem illi non suo, sed populorum suffragio omnium nominati sunt. 2.7.  "What then?" he replied; "does not Epicurus recognize pleasure in your sense?" "Not always," said I; "now and then, I admit, he recognizes it only too fully; for he solemnly avows that he cannot even understand what Good there can be or where it can be found, apart from that which is derived from food and drink, the delight of the ears, and the grosser forms of gratification. Do I misrepresent his words?" "Just as if I were ashamed of all that," he cried, "or unable to explain the sense in which it is spoken!" "Oh," said I, "I haven't the least doubt you can explain it with ease. And you have no reason to be ashamed of sharing the opinions of a Wise Man — who stands alone, so far as I am aware, in venturing to arrogate to himself that title. For I do not suppose that Metrodorus himself claimed to be a Wise Man, though he did not care to refuse the compliment when the name was bestowed upon him by Epicurus; while the famous Seven of old received their appellation not by their own votes, but by the universal suffrage of mankind.
3. Cicero, On The Nature of The Gods, 1.43 (2nd cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

1.43. With the errors of the poets may be classed the monstrous doctrines of the magi and the insane mythology of Egypt, and also the popular beliefs, which are a mere mass of inconsistencies sprung from ignorance. "Anyone pondering on the baseless and irrational character of these doctrines ought to regard Epicurus with reverence, and to rank him as one of the very gods about whom we are inquiring. For he alone perceived, first, that the gods exist, because nature herself has imprinted a conception of them on the minds of all mankind. For what nation or what tribe is there but possesses untaught some 'preconception' of the gods? Such notions Epicurus designates by the word prolepsis, that is, a sort of preconceived mental picture of a thing, without which nothing can be understood or investigated or discussed. The force and value of this argument we learn in that work of genius, Epicurus's Rule or Standard of Judgement.
4. Cicero, Tusculan Disputations, 1.48 (2nd cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

1.48. quae quidem quidem culidem R 1 cogitans soleo solo R 1 saepe mirari non nullorum insolentiam philosophorum, qui naturae cognitionem admirantur eiusque inventori et principi gratias exultantes insultantes K 1 agunt eumque venerantur ut deum; liberatos enim se per eum dicunt gravissimis dominis, terrore sempiterno et diurno ac nocturno anoct. ( pro ac noct.)R metu. quo terrore? quo metu? quae est anus tam delira quae timeat ista, quae vos videlicet, si physica phisica KR Enn. Andr. aechm. 107 non didicissetis, timeretis, Acherunsia acheru sia V templa alta Orci, pallida leti, nubila letio nubila GK 1 (b post o add. K c )R let o nubila V (leto n. B) tenebris loca ? non pudet philosophum in eo gloriari, quod haec non timeat et quod falsa esse cognoverit? e quo intellegi potest, quam acuti natura sint, quoniam haec sine doctrina credituri fuerunt.
5. Lucretius Carus, On The Nature of Things, 1.1-1.43, 1.54-1.79, 1.127-1.145, 1.926-1.930, 2.1-2.66, 2.730, 2.1116-2.1117, 3.1-3.11, 3.13-3.93, 3.322, 3.419, 3.995-3.1002, 3.1042-3.1044, 4.1-4.41, 4.43, 4.1058, 5.1-5.59, 5.64-5.66, 5.68-5.69, 5.73-5.90, 5.1020, 5.1120-5.1128, 5.1131-5.1132, 6.1-6.80, 6.86, 6.90-6.95 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

6. Vergil, Georgics, 2.455, 3.457-3.458 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

2.455. From story up to story. 3.457. So 'neath the seven-starred Hyperborean wain 3.458. The folk live tameless, buffeted with blast
7. Plutarch, Against Colotes, 1108e (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

8. Plutarch, It Is Impossible To Live Pleasantly In The Manner of Epicurus, 1100a (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

9. Sextus, Against The Mathematicians, 7.432 (2nd cent. CE - 3rd cent. CE)

10. Porphyry, On Abstinence, 1.7-1.8 (3rd cent. CE - 4th cent. CE)

1.7. 7.The Epicureans, however, narrating, as it were, a long genealogy, say, that the ancient legislators, looking to the association of life, and the mutual actions of men, proclaimed that manslaughter was unholy, and punished it with no casual disgrace. Perhaps, indeed, a certain natural alliance which exists in men towards each other, though the similitude of form and soul, is the reason why they do not so readily destroy an animal of this kind, as some of the other animals which are conceded to our use. Nevertheless, the greatest cause why manslaughter was considered as a thing grievous to be borne, and impious, was the opinion that it did not contribute to the whole nature and condition of human life. For, from a principle of this kind, those who are capable of perceiving the advantage arising from this decree, require no other cause of being restrained from a deed so dire. But those who are not able to have a sufficient perception of this, being terrified by the magnitude of the punishment, will abstain from readily destroying each other. For those, indeed, who survey the utility of the before-mentioned ordice, will promptly observe it; but those who are not able to perceive the benefit with which it is attended, will obey the mandate, in consequence of fearing the threatenings of the laws; which threatenings certain persons ordained for the sake of those who could not, by a reasoning process, infer the beneficial tendency of the decree, at the same time that most would admit this to be evident. SPAN 1.8. 8.For none of those legal institutes which were established from the |15 first, whether written or unwritten, and which still remain, and are adapted to be transmitted, [from one generation to another] became lawful through violence, but through the consent of those that used them. For those who introduced things of this kind to the multitude, excelled in wisdom, and not in strength of body, and the power which subjugates the rabble. Hence, through this, some were led to a rational consideration of utility, of which they had only an irrational sensation, and which they had frequently forgotten; but others were terrified by the magnitude of the punishments. For it was not possible to use any other remedy for the ignorance of what is beneficial than the dread of the punishment ordained by law. For this alone even now keeps the vulgar in awe, and prevents them from doing any thing, either publicly or privately, which is not beneficial [to the community]. But if all men were similarly capable of surveying and recollecting what is advantageous, there would be no need of laws, but men would spontaneously avoid such things as are prohibited, and perform such as they were ordered to do. For a survey of what is useful and detrimental, is a sufficient incentive to the avoidance of the one and the choice of the other. But the infliction of punishment has a reference to those who do not foresee what is beneficial. For impendent punishment forcibly compels such as these to subdue those impulses which lead them to useless actions, and to do that which is right. SPAN


Subjects of this text:

subject book bibliographic info
ambition Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 34
ataraxia Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 34
athens Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 66
bacchus Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 37
banquets Nijs, The Epicurean Sage in the Ethics of Philodemus (2023) 9
bethlehem Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 66
brown, robert Kazantzidis, Lucretius on Disease: The Poetics of Morbidity in "De rerum natura" (2021) 126
callimachus Kazantzidis, Lucretius on Disease: The Poetics of Morbidity in "De rerum natura" (2021) 125, 126, 127
culture history Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 34
death/dying, being remembered after Nijs, The Epicurean Sage in the Ethics of Philodemus (2023) 9
epicurus, authority in the de rerum natura Bryan, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 224, 225; Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 224, 225
epicurus Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 20
finales, in lucretius Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 20
friendship Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 34
gods, epicurus as divine Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 66
gods, in the georgics Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 37
hawking, stephen Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 66
hermarchus Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 34
historical sages Nijs, The Epicurean Sage in the Ethics of Philodemus (2023) 9
honey Kazantzidis, Lucretius on Disease: The Poetics of Morbidity in "De rerum natura" (2021) 125, 126
imagery, light and darkness Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 20
imagery, storms Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 20
intertextuality Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 34
justice Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 34
law Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 34
lucretius, devotion to epicurus Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 224, 225
lucretius Nijs, The Epicurean Sage in the Ethics of Philodemus (2023) 9
muses Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 20
narrative Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 66
natura Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 37
paradox Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 66
pleasure/happiness Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 34
porphyry Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 34
proems, in lucretius Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 20
proems in the middle Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 20
reason Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 66
religion, lucretius religious devotion to epicurus Kazantzidis, Lucretius on Disease: The Poetics of Morbidity in "De rerum natura" (2021) 127
sagehood Nijs, The Epicurean Sage in the Ethics of Philodemus (2023) 9
sedley, david Kazantzidis, Lucretius on Disease: The Poetics of Morbidity in "De rerum natura" (2021) 127
self-proclaimed Nijs, The Epicurean Sage in the Ethics of Philodemus (2023) 9
society Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 34
socrates Nijs, The Epicurean Sage in the Ethics of Philodemus (2023) 9
spontaneity Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 34
statues Nijs, The Epicurean Sage in the Ethics of Philodemus (2023) 9
stoic Nijs, The Epicurean Sage in the Ethics of Philodemus (2023) 9
stoics Nijs, The Epicurean Sage in the Ethics of Philodemus (2023) 9
teachers/teaching Nijs, The Epicurean Sage in the Ethics of Philodemus (2023) 9
teleology Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 66
time Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 66
truth' Lehoux et al., Lucretius: Poetry, Philosophy, Science (2013) 66
venus Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 20, 37
vituperatio vitis Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 37
wormwood Kazantzidis, Lucretius on Disease: The Poetics of Morbidity in "De rerum natura" (2021) 126