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Lucretius Carus, On The Nature Of Things, 2.1122-2.1174

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Thus, too, the ramparts of the mighty world On all sides round shall taken be by storm, And tumble to wrack and shivered fragments down. For food it is must keep things whole, renewing; 'Tis food must prop and give support to all,- But to no purpose, since nor veins suffice To hold enough, nor nature ministers As much as needful. And even now 'tis thus: Its age is broken and the earth, outworn With many parturitions, scarce creates The little lives- she who created erst All generations and gave forth at birth Enormous bodies of wild beasts of old. For never, I fancy, did a golden cord From off the firmament above let down The mortal generations to the fields; Nor sea, nor breakers pounding on the rocks Created them; but earth it was who bore- The same to-day who feeds them from herself. Besides, herself of own accord, she first The shining grains and vineyards of all joy Created for mortality; herself Gave the sweet fruitage and the pastures glad, Which now to-day yet scarcely wax in size, Even when aided by our toiling arms. We break the ox, and wear away the strength Of sturdy farm-hands; iron tools to-day Barely avail for tilling of the fields, So niggardly they grudge our harvestings, So much increase our labour. Now to-day The aged ploughman, shaking of his head, Sighs o'er and o'er that labours of his hands Have fallen out in vain, and, as he thinks How present times are not as times of old, Often he praises the fortunes of his sire, And crackles, prating, how the ancient race, Fulfilled with piety, supported life With simple comfort in a narrow plot, Since, man for man, the measure of each field Was smaller far i' the old days. And, again, The gloomy planter of the withered vine Rails at the season's change and wearies heaven, Nor grasps that all of things by sure degrees Are wasting away and going to the tomb, Outworn by venerable length of life.

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1. Cicero, On The Ends of Good And Evil, 2.75 (2nd cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

2.75. Verum esto: verbum ipsum voluptatis non habet dignitatem, nec nos fortasse intellegimus. hoc enim identidem dicitis, non intellegere nos quam dicatis voluptatem. rem videlicet videlicet P. Man. vides difficilem et obscuram! individua cum dicitis et intermundia, quae nec sunt ulla nec possunt esse, intellegimus, voluptas, quae passeribus omnibus nota est, nota est omnibus A a nobis intellegi non potest? quid, si efficio ut fateare me non modo quid sit voluptas scire—est enim iucundus motus in sensu—, sed etiam quid eam tu velis velis tu eam BE esse? tum enim eam ipsam vis, quam modo ego dixi, dixi ego BE et nomen inponis, in motu ut sit et faciat aliquam varietatem, tum aliam quandam summam voluptatem, quo quo ARN qua BE cui V Mdv. ('quo et qua orta puto ex quoi') addi nihil possit; eam tum adesse, cum dolor omnis absit; eam stabilem appellas.

2.75. "But let us grant your position. The actual word 'pleasure' has not a lofty sound; and perhaps we do not understand its significance: you are always repeating that we do not understand what you mean by pleasure. As though it were a difficult or recondite notion! If we understand you when you talk of 'indivisible atoms' and 'cosmic interspaces,' things that don't exist and never can exist, is our intelligence incapable of grasping the meaning of pleasure, a feeling known to every sparrow? What if I force you to admit that I do know not only what pleasure really is (it is an agreeable activity of the sense), but also what you mean by it? For at one moment you mean by it the feeling that I have just defined, and this you entitle 'kinetic' pleasure, as producing a definite change of feeling, but at another moment you say it is quite a different feeling, which is the acme and climax of pleasure, but yet consists merely in the complete absence of pain; this you call 'static' pleasure.

2. Cicero, On The Nature of The Gods, 1.18 (2nd cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

1.18. Hereupon Velleius began, in the confident manner (I need not say) that is customary with Epicureans, afraid of nothing so much as lest he should appear to have doubts about anything. One would have supposed he had just come down from the assembly of the gods in the intermundane spaces of Epicurus! "I am not going to expound to you doctrines that are mere baseless figments of the imagination, such as the artisan deity and world-builder of Plato's Timaeus, or that old hag of a fortune-teller, the Pronoia (which we may render 'Providence') of the Stoics; nor yet a world endowed with a mind and senses of its own, a spherical, rotatory god of burning fire; these are the marvels and monstrosities of philosophers who do not reason but dream.

3. Lucretius Carus, On The Nature of Things, 1.44-1.49, 1.102-1.135, 1.161-1.179, 1.192-1.195, 1.208-1.214, 1.227-1.231, 1.250-1.264, 1.1102-1.1112, 1.1114-1.1117, 2.67-2.79, 2.81, 2.168, 2.172, 2.569-2.580, 2.1030-2.1039, 2.1041-2.1057, 2.1059-2.1062, 2.1081-2.1083, 2.1090-2.1117, 2.1123-2.1174, 3.1-3.2, 3.23-3.24, 3.417, 3.445-3.458, 3.670-3.783, 3.970-3.971, 3.1090-3.1094, 4.35-4.41, 4.43, 4.733-4.734, 4.760-4.761, 4.1286-4.1287, 5.235-5.508, 5.783-5.1457, 6.1-6.6, 6.24-6.34, 6.1138-6.1286 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

4. Quintilian, Institutio Oratoria, 7.3.5 (1st cent. CE - 1st cent. CE)

7.3.5. For the man who denies that god is a spirit permeating all things, assuredly asserts that the epithet "divine" is falsely applied to his nature, like Epicurus, who gives him a human form and makes him reside in the intermundane space. While both use the same term god, both have to employ conjecture to decide which of the two meanings is consistent with fact.

5. Seneca The Younger, De Beneficiis, 4.4.19, 7.31.3 (1st cent. CE - 1st cent. CE)

6. Epicurus, Letter To Herodotus, 48

7. Epicurus, Letters, 89

8. Epicurus, Letters, 89

Subjects of this text:

subject	book bibliographic info
allegory	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 115
amor, in lucretius	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 21
athens	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 22
cycle of growth and decay, in lucretius	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 21, 22, 115
death, in lucretius	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 21, 22
dreams	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 22
epicurus, authority in the de rerum natura	Bryan, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 229; Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 229
epicurus, theology	Bryan, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 229; Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 229
epicurus	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 21
finales, in lucretius	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 21, 22
gods, location in epicureanism	Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 229
heuretai	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 115
lucretius, culture-history in	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 115
lucretius, cycle of growth and decay in	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 21, 22, 115
lucretius, death in	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 21, 22
lucretius, devotion to epicurus	Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 229
lucretius, myth in	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 115
lucretius, natura in	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 115
lucretius, theology	Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 229
myth, in lucretius	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 115
myth, in the georgics	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 115
natura	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 115
philodemus	Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 229
plague	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 21, 22
proems, in lucretius'	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 115
proems, in lucretius	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 21, 22
prometheus	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 115
stoicism	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 115
venus	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 21, 22, 115
virgil, reception of lucretius	Gale, Virgil on the Nature of Things: The Georgics, Lucretius and the Didactic Tradition (2000) 115