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1. Cicero, On Divination, 1.33, 1.36 (2nd cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

1.33. Cotem autem illam et novaculam defossam in comitio supraque inpositum puteal accepimus. Negemus omnia, comburamus annales, ficta haec esse dicamus, quidvis denique potius quam deos res humanas curare fateamur; quid? quod scriptum apud te est de Ti. Graccho, nonne et augurum et haruspicum conprobat disciplinam? qui cum tabernaculum vitio cepisset inprudens, quod inauspicato pomerium transgressus esset, comitia consulibus rogandis habuit. Nota res est et a te ipso mandata monumentis. Sed et ipse augur Ti. Gracchus auspiciorum auctoritatem confessione errati sui conprobavit, et haruspicum disciplinae magna accessit auctoritas, qui recentibus comitiis in senatum introducti negaverunt iustum comitiorum rogatorem fuisse. 1.36. Quid? qui inridetur, partus hic mulae nonne, quia fetus extitit in sterilitate naturae, praedictus est ab haruspicibus incredibilis partus malorum? Quid? Ti. Gracchus P. F., qui bis consul et censor fuit, idemque et summus augur et vir sapiens civisque praestans, nonne, ut C. Gracchus, filius eius, scriptum reliquit, duobus anguibus domi conprehensis haruspices convocavit? qui cum respondissent, si marem emisisset, uxori brevi tempore esse moriendum, si feminam, ipsi, aequius esse censuit se maturam oppetere mortem quam P. Africani filiam adulescentem; feminam emisit, ipse paucis post diebus est mortuus. Inrideamus haruspices, vanos, futtiles esse dicamus, quorumque disciplinam et sapientissimus vir et eventus ac res conprobavit, contemnamus, condemnemus etiam Babylonem et eos, qui e Caucaso caeli signa servantes numeris et modis stellarum cursus persequuntur, condemnemus, inquam, hos aut stultitiae aut vanitatis aut inpudentiae, qui quadringenta septuaginta milia annorum, ut ipsi dicunt, monumentis conprehensa continent, et mentiri iudicemus nec, saeculorum reliquorum iudicium quod de ipsis futurum sit, pertimescere. 1.33. Moreover, according to tradition, the whetstone and razor were buried in the comitium and a stone curbing placed over them.Let us declare this story wholly false; let us burn the chronicles that contain it; let us call it a myth and admit almost anything you please rather than the fact that the gods have any concern in human affairs. But look at this: does not the story about Tiberius Gracchus found in your own writings acknowledge that augury and soothsaying are arts? He, having placed his tabernaculum, unwittingly violated augural law by crossing the pomerium before completing the auspices; nevertheless he held the consular election. The fact is well known to you since you have recorded it. Besides, Tiberius Gracchus, who was himself an augur, confirmed the authority of auspices by confessing his error; and the soothsayers, too, greatly enhanced the reputation of their calling, when brought into the Senate immediately after the election, by declaring that the election supervisor had acted without authority. [18] 1.36. Why, then, when here recently a mule (which is an animal ordinarily sterile by nature) brought forth a foal, need anyone have scoffed because the soothsayers from that occurrence prophesied a progeny of countless evils to the state?What, pray, do you say of that well-known incident of Tiberius Gracchus, the son of Publius? He was censor and consul twice; beside that he was a most competent augur, a wise man and a pre-eminent citizen. Yet he, according to the account left us by his son Gaius, having caught two snakes in his home, called in the soothsayers to consult them. They advised him that if he let the male snake go his wife must die in a short time; and if he released the female snake his own death must soon occur. Thinking it more fitting that a speedy death should overtake him rather than his young wife, who was the daughter of Publius Africanus, he released the female snake and died within a few days.[19] Let us laugh at the soothsayers, brand them as frauds and impostors and scorn their calling, even though a very wise man, Tiberius Gracchus, and the results and circumstances of his death have given proof of its trustworthiness; let us scorn the Babylonians, too, and those astrologers who, from the top of Mount Caucasus, observe the celestial signs and with the aid of mathematics follow the courses of the stars; let us, I say, convict of folly, falsehood, and shamelessness the men whose records, as they themselves assert, cover a period of four hundred and seventy thousand years; and let us pronounce them liars, utterly indifferent to the opinion of succeeding generations.
2. Cicero, On The Nature of The Gods, 2.11 (2nd cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

2.11. Thereupon Gracchus, so my father used to tell me, burst into a rage. 'How now?' he cried, 'was I not in order? I put the names to the vote as consul, as augur, and with auspices taken. Who are you, Tuscan barbarians, to know the Roman constitution, and to be able to lay down the law as to our elections?' And accordingly he then sent them about their business. Afterwards however he sent a dispatch from his province to the College of Augurs to say that while reading the sacred books it had come to his mind that there had been an irregularity when he took Scipio's park as the site for his augural tent, for he had subsequently entered the city bounds to hold a meeting of the Senate and when crossing the bounds again on his return had forgotten to take the auspices; and that therefore the consuls had not been duly elected. The College of Augurs referred the matter to the senate; the Senate decided that the consuls must resign; they did so. What more striking instances can we demand? A man of the greatest wisdom and I may say unrivalled distinction of character preferred to make public confession of an offence that he might have concealed rather than that the stain of impiety should cling to the commonwealth; the consuls preferred to retire on the spot from the highest office of the state rather than hold it for one moment of time in violation of religion.
3. Livy, History, 5.24, 5.31.5-5.31.6 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

4. Valerius Maximus, Memorable Deeds And Sayings, 1.1.3 (1st cent. CE - 1st cent. CE)



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abdication, of consular tribunes Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 292, 293
abdication, of consuls Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 292, 293
auspicato, of consular tribune Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 292
booty Poulsen, Usages of the Past in Roman Historiography (2021), 148
c. iulius caesar Poulsen, Usages of the Past in Roman Historiography (2021), 148
capenae, capenates Poulsen, Usages of the Past in Roman Historiography (2021), 148
carthage, carthaginians Poulsen, Usages of the Past in Roman Historiography (2021), 148
caudine forks Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
chronicon paschale, chronographer of Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
commentarii de bello gallico Poulsen, Usages of the Past in Roman Historiography (2021), 148
comparatio Poulsen, Usages of the Past in Roman Historiography (2021), 148
consuls, fail to enter office Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
consuls, suffect Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 292, 293
dictator, abdication Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
dictator interregni caussa, comitiorum habendorum Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
falerii veteres, faliscans Poulsen, Usages of the Past in Roman Historiography (2021), 148
furius camillus, m. Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 292, 293
gallia Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
hispania Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
imperium, of consul Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
interregnum, auspices, renovation of, through Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
licinius macer, c., and libri lintei Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 292
livy Poulsen, Usages of the Past in Roman Historiography (2021), 148
lutatius catulus, c. Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
m. furius camillus Poulsen, Usages of the Past in Roman Historiography (2021), 148
mucius scaevola, q. Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
of falerii Poulsen, Usages of the Past in Roman Historiography (2021), 148
of veii Poulsen, Usages of the Past in Roman Historiography (2021), 148
papirius mugillanus, l. Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 292
samnite wars Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
sempronius atratinus, l. Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 292
sempronius gracchus, ti., elections, vitium at Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 292
senate, consular tribunes, ordered to abdicate by Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 292
senate, consuls, ordered to abdicate by Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
siege, sack Poulsen, Usages of the Past in Roman Historiography (2021), 148
tabernaculum Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 292
triumphs Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
valerius laevinus, m. Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
veturius philo, l. Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
vitio creatus or factus, consular tribunes Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 292, 293
vitio creatus or factus, consuls Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
vitio creatus or factus, dictator Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 293
vitium, of ti. gracchus' Konrad, The Challenge to the Auspices: Studies on Magisterial Power in the Middle Roman Republic (2022) 292