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Livy, History, 36.1.3
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1. Dionysius of Halycarnassus, Roman Antiquities, 4.60-4.61 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

4.60. 1.  When these men came to the house of the soothsayer they met by chance a youth who was just coming out, and informing him that they were ambassadors sent from Rome who wanted to speak with the soothsayer, they asked him to announce them to him. The youth replied: "The man you wish to speak with is my father. He is busy at present, but in a short time you may be admitted to him.,2.  And while you are waiting for him, acquaint me with the reason of your coming. For if, through inexperience, you are in danger of committing an error in phrasing your question, when you have been informed by me you will be able to avoid any mistake; for the correct for of question is not the least important part of the art of divination." The ambassadors resolved to follow his advice and related the prodigy to him. And when the youth had heard it, after a short pause he said: "Hear me, Romans. My father will interpret this prodigy to you and will tell you no untruth, since it is not right for a soothsayer to speak falsely; but, in order that you may be guilty of no error or falsehood in what you say or in the answers you give to his questions (for it is of importance to you to know these things beforehand), be instructed by me.,3.  After you have related the prodigy to him he will tell you that he does not fully understand what you say and will circumscribe with his staff some piece of ground or other; then he will say to you: 'This is the Tarpeian Hill, and this is part of it that faces the east, this the part that faces the west, this point is north and the opposite is south.',4.  These parts he will point out to you with his staff and then ask you in which of these parts the head was found. What answer, therefore, do I advise you to make? Do not admit that the prodigy was found in any of these places he shall inquire about when he points them out with his staff, but say that it appeared among you at Rome on the Tarpeian Hill. If you stick to these answers and do not allow yourselves to be misled by him, he, well knowing that fate cannot be changed, will interpret to you without concealment what the prodigy means. 4.61. 1.  Having received these instructions, the ambassadors, as soon as the old man was at leisure and a servant came out to fetch them, went in and related the prodigy to the soothsayer. He, craftily endeavouring to mislead them, drew circular lines upon the ground and then other straight lines, and asked them with reference to each place in turn whether the head had been found there; but the ambassadors, not at all disturbed in mind, stuck to the one answer suggested to them by the soothsayer's son, always naming Rome and the Tarpeian Hill, and asked the interpreter not to appropriate the omen to himself, but to answer in the most sincere and just manner.,2.  The soothsayer, accordingly, finding it impossible for him either to impose upon the men or to appropriate the omen, said to them: "Romans, tell your fellow citizens it is ordained by fate that the place in which you found the head shall be the head of all Italy." Since that time the place is called the Capitoline Hill from the head that was found there; for the Romans call heads capita.,3.  Tarquinius, having heard these things from the ambassadors, set the artisans to work and built the greater part of the temple, though he was not able to complete the whole work, being driven from power too soon; but the Roman people brought it to completion in the third consulship. It stood upon a high base and was eight hundred feet in circuit, each side measuring close to two hundred feet; indeed, one would find the excess of the length over the width to be but slight, in fact not a full fifteen feet.,4.  For the temple that was built in the time of our fathers after the burning of this one was erected upon the same foundations, and differed from the ancient structure in nothing but the costliness of the materials, having three rows of columns on the front, facing the south, and a single row on each side. The temple consists of three parallel shrines, separated by party walls; the middle shrine is dedicated to Jupiter, while on one side stands that of Juno and on the other that of Minerva, all three being under one pediment and one roof.
2. Livy, History, 1.55.5-1.55.6, 2.42.10, 5.31.5-5.31.6, 8.6.12, 8.9.1, 9.34.18, 27.16.15, 27.26.13-27.26.14, 31.5.7, 41.15, 41.18.14-41.18.16, 42.20.2, 42.20.4, 42.30.9 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)



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anxiety Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 191
authority, of ammianus, priestly Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
christians Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189
control, over divinatory sacrifice Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189, 191
debate, political debate Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 191
decemuiri sacris faciundis, authority Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
decemuiri sacris faciundis, pessimistic'" '168.0_85@comitium Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
decemuiri sacris faciundis Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
decision making Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 191
emotions, fear Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 191
emotions, terror Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 191
etruscan-style sacrificial divination Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189
exempla, in livy Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
experience, religious experience Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189
expertise Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189
extispicy Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189, 191
foreign, haruspices Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
gods Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 191
haruspices, prophecies Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
haruspices, responses Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
haruspices, validated Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
haruspices Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70; Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189; Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
horatius cocles Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
interpretation, positive Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
iulius caesar, c. Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189
jupiter, capitolinus Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
jupiter Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
litatio, usque ad litationem Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189
litatio Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189, 191
manius Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
marcus claudius marcellus Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
omens Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
priests, in error Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
prodigies, assessment Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
prodigy Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
public divination Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
quinctius cincinnatus, l., (quin)decemuiri s.f. Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
quinctius cincinnatus, l., and haruspicy Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
religio, religio, ritual, of Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
religion, of sacrifices Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 191
religion Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 191
ritual, prescriptions Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
rome, sacrifice in roman state divination Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189, 191
sacrifices, failed sacrifices Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189, 191
sacrifices, limits of human control Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189, 191
salus Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189
second macedonian war Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
senate/senators Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189, 191
senate Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
sibylline books Davies, Rome's Religious History: Livy, Tacitus and Ammianus on their Gods (2004) 70
signs Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
tarquinius superbus Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85
victimarii Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 191
victims, sacrificial' Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy, Esther Eidinow, Ancient Divination and Experience (2019) 189
victoria Santangelo, Roman Frugality: Modes of Moderation from the Archaic Age to the Early Empire and Beyond (2013) 85