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Irenaeus, Refutation Of All Heresies, 2.28.6


nanBut, beyond reason inflated [with your own wisdom], ye presumptuously maintain that ye are acquainted with the unspeakable mysteries of God; while even the Lord, the very Son of God, allowed that the Father alone knows the very day and hour of judgment, when He plainly declares, "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, neither the Son, but the Father only." If, then, the Son was not ashamed to ascribe the knowledge of that day to the Father only, but declared what was true regarding the matter, neither let us be ashamed to reserve for God those greater questions which may occur to us. For no man is superior to his master. If any one, therefore, says to us, "How then was the Son produced by the Father?" we reply to him, that no man understands that production, or generation, or calling, or revelation, or by whatever name one may describe His generation, which is in fact altogether indescribable. Neither Valentinus, nor Marcion, nor Saturninus, nor Basilides, nor angels, nor archangels, nor principalities, nor powers [possess this knowledge], but the Father only who begat, and the Son who was begotten. Since therefore His generation is unspeakable, those who strive to set forth generations and productions cannot be in their right mind, inasmuch as they undertake to describe things which are indescribable. For that a word is uttered at the bidding of thought and mind, all men indeed well understand. Those, therefore, who have excogitated [the theory of] emissions have not discovered anything great, or revealed any abstruse mystery, when they have simply transferred what all understand to the only-begotten Word of God; and while they style Him unspeakable and unnameable, they nevertheless set forth the production and formation of His first generation, as if they themselves had assisted at His birth, thus assimilating Him to the word of mankind formed by emissions.


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1. Hebrew Bible, Isaiah, 53.8, 61.2 (8th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

53.8. מֵעֹצֶר וּמִמִּשְׁפָּט לֻקָּח וְאֶת־דּוֹרוֹ מִי יְשׂוֹחֵחַ כִּי נִגְזַר מֵאֶרֶץ חַיִּים מִפֶּשַׁע עַמִּי נֶגַע לָמוֹ׃ 61.2. לִקְרֹא שְׁנַת־רָצוֹן לַיהוָה וְיוֹם נָקָם לֵאלֹהֵינוּ לְנַחֵם כָּל־אֲבֵלִים׃ 53.8. By oppression and judgment he was taken away, And with his generation who did reason? For he was cut off out of the land of the living, For the transgression of my people to whom the stroke was due." 61.2. To proclaim the year of the LORD’S good pleasure, And the day of vengeance of our God; To comfort all that mourn;"
2. New Testament, Matthew, 13.17 (1st cent. CE - 1st cent. CE)

13.17. For most assuredly I tell you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see the things which you see, and didn't see them; and to hear the things which you hear, and didn't hear them.
3. Irenaeus, Refutation of All Heresies, 1.8.1-1.8.4, 1.10.1-1.10.3, 1.20.1, 2.10.1, 2.22.4-2.22.5, 2.24.1, 2.27.2-2.27.3, 2.28.1-2.28.4, 2.28.7, 2.28.9, 3.1.1, 3.2.1, 3.4.1, 3.5.3, 3.8.1, 3.12.11, 3.12.15, 3.13.3, 3.18.7, 3.21.5, 3.24.1-3.24.2, 4.6.4, 4.24.1, 4.26.2, 4.33.8, 4.33.15, 4.34.1, 4.36.2, 5.22.2, 5.35.1-5.35.2 (2nd cent. CE - 3rd cent. CE)

4. Irenaeus, Demonstration of The Apostolic Teaching, 36 (2nd cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

5. Justin, First Apology, 59, 44 (2nd cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

44. And the holy Spirit of prophecy taught us this, telling us by Moses that God spoke thus to the man first created: Behold, before your face are good and evil: choose the good. And again, by the other prophet Isaiah, that the following utterance was made as if from God the Father and Lord of all: Wash you, make you clean; put away evils from your souls; learn to do well; judge the orphan, and plead for the widow: and come and let us reason together, says the Lord: And if your sins be as scarlet, I will make them white as wool; and if they be red like as crimson, I will make them white as snow. And if you be willing and obey Me, you shall eat the good of the land; but if you do not obey Me, the sword shall devour you: for the mouth of the Lord has spoken it. Isaiah 1:16, etc. And that expression, The sword shall devour you, does not mean that the disobedient shall be slain by the sword, but the sword of God is fire, of which they who choose to do wickedly become the fuel. Wherefore He says, The sword shall devour you: for the mouth of the Lord has spoken it. And if He had spoken concerning a sword that cuts and at once dispatches, He would not have said, shall devour. And so, too, Plato, when he says, The blame is his who chooses, and God is blameless, took this from the prophet Moses and uttered it. For Moses is more ancient than all the Greek writers. And whatever both philosophers and poets have said concerning the immortality of the soul, or punishments after death, or contemplation of things heavenly, or doctrines of the like kind, they have received such suggestions from the prophets as have enabled them to understand and interpret these things. And hence there seem to be seeds of truth among all men; but they are charged with not accurately understanding [the truth] when they assert contradictories. So that what we say about future events being foretold, we do not say it as if they came about by a fatal necessity; but God foreknowing all that shall be done by all men, and it being His decree that the future actions of men shall all be recompensed according to their several value, He foretells by the Spirit of prophecy that He will bestow meet rewards according to the merit of the actions done, always urging the human race to effort and recollection, showing that He cares and provides for men. But by the agency of the devils death has been decreed against those who read the books of Hystaspes, or of the Sibyl, or of the prophets, that through fear they may prevent men who read them from receiving the knowledge of the good, and may retain them in slavery to themselves; which, however, they could not always effect. For not only do we fearlessly read them, but, as you see, bring them for your inspection, knowing that their contents will be pleasing to all. And if we persuade even a few, our gain will be very great; for, as good husbandmen, we shall receive the reward from the Master.


Subjects of this text:

subject book bibliographic info
anthropomorphism Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 42
bible Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 163, 174
charisma and truth Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 163
church Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 174
coherence (and truth) Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 174
divine economy Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 42, 90
divine intellect Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 32, 42
economy Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 90
exegesis, allegorical Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 244
exegesis, in gnosticism Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 244, 245
exegesis, in irenaeus Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 244, 245
exegesis, literal Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 244, 245
exegesis Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 174
father and maker' Lieu, Marcion and the Making of a Heretic: God and Scripture in the Second Century (2015) 47
god, attributes of Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 32
god as intellect Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 42
god as opulent Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 32
heresy Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 152
hypothesis, of scripture Behr, Asceticism and Anthropology in Irenaeus and Clement (2000) 34
intellect Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 32, 42, 90
irenaeus, criticism of gnostic exegesis Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 244, 245
jewish people Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 244
justin martyr Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 163
logos Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 163
maker Lieu, Marcion and the Making of a Heretic: God and Scripture in the Second Century (2015) 47
marcion Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 42
metaphysic of mind Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 32
parables Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 174
participation Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 152, 163, 174
philo Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 90
philosophy Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 32, 163
platonic forms Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 42, 163
prophetic imagery Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 163
recapitulation Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 163
rome marcion at Lieu, Marcion and the Making of a Heretic: God and Scripture in the Second Century (2015) 47
rule of faith Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 163
salvation Lieu, Marcion and the Making of a Heretic: God and Scripture in the Second Century (2015) 47
satan Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 152
scripture, as contested authority Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 244, 245
scripture, interpretation of Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 174
simon magus Lieu, Marcion and the Making of a Heretic: God and Scripture in the Second Century (2015) 47
succession, authentic succession Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 244, 245
trinity Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 90
valentinus Lieu, Marcion and the Making of a Heretic: God and Scripture in the Second Century (2015) 47; Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 42
wisdom Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 90
word, the Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 90
xenophanes Osborne, Irenaeus of Lyons (2001) 32, 42
εἱρμός Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 244
πιθανολογία Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 245
τάξις Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 244
ὑπόθεσις Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 245