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Herodotus, Histories, 2.2.5


nanReasoning from this, the Egyptians acknowledged that the Phrygians were older than they. This is the story which I heard from the priests of Hephaestus' temple at Memphis ; the Greeks say among many foolish things that Psammetichus had the children reared by women whose tongues he had cut out.


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1. Aristophanes, Clouds, 398 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

398. καὶ πῶς ὦ μῶρε σὺ καὶ Κρονίων ὄζων καὶ βεκκεσέληνε
2. Herodotus, Histories, 2.4.1, 2.35, 2.119, 4.36.2 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

2.4.1. But as to human affairs, this was the account in which they all agreed: the Egyptians, they said, were the first men who reckoned by years and made the year consist of twelve divisions of the seasons. They discovered this from the stars (so they said). And their reckoning is, to my mind, a juster one than that of the Greeks; for the Greeks add an intercalary month every other year, so that the seasons agree; but the Egyptians, reckoning thirty days to each of the twelve months, add five days in every year over and above the total, and thus the completed circle of seasons is made to agree with the calendar. 2.35. It is sufficient to say this much concerning the Nile . But concerning Egypt, I am going to speak at length, because it has the most wonders, and everywhere presents works beyond description; therefore, I shall say the more concerning Egypt . ,Just as the Egyptians have a climate peculiar to themselves, and their river is different in its nature from all other rivers, so, too, have they instituted customs and laws contrary for the most part to those of the rest of mankind. Among them, the women buy and sell, the men stay at home and weave; and whereas in weaving all others push the woof upwards, the Egyptians push it downwards. ,Men carry burdens on their heads, women on their shoulders. Women pass water standing, men sitting. They ease their bowels indoors, and eat out of doors in the streets, explaining that things unseemly but necessary should be done alone in private, things not unseemly should be done openly. ,No woman is dedicated to the service of any god or goddess; men are dedicated to all deities male or female. Sons are not compelled against their will to support their parents, but daughters must do so though they be unwilling. 2.119. Menelaus then went to Egypt and up the river to Memphis ; there, relating the truth of the matter, he met with great hospitality and got back Helen, who had not been harmed, and also all his wealth, besides. ,Yet, although getting this, Menelaus was guilty of injustice toward the Egyptians. For adverse weather detained him when he tried to sail away; after this continued for some time, he carried out something impious, ,taking two native children and sacrificing them. When it became known that he had done this, he fled with his ships straight to Libya, hated and hunted; and where he went from there, the Egyptians could not say. The priests told me that they had learned some of this by inquiry, but that they were sure of what had happened in their own country. 4.36.2. And I laugh to see how many have before now drawn maps of the world, not one of them reasonably; for they draw the world as round as if fashioned by compasses, encircled by the Ocean river, and Asia and Europe of a like extent. For myself, I will in a few words indicate the extent of the two, and how each should be drawn.
3. Hipponax, Fragments, 125 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

4. Hyginus, Fabulae (Genealogiae), 191 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

5. Lucretius Carus, On The Nature of Things, 2.611 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)

6. Pausanias, Description of Greece, 1.14.2 (2nd cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

1.14.2. The Greeks who dispute most the Athenian claim to antiquity and the gifts they say they have received from the gods are the Argives, just as among those who are not Greeks the Egyptians compete with the Phrygians. It is said, then, that when Demeter came to Argos she was received by Pelasgus into his home, and that Chrysanthis, knowing about the rape of the Maid, related the story to her. Afterwards Trochilus, the priest of the mysteries, fled, they say, from Argos because of the enmity of Agenor, came to Attica and married a woman of Eleusis, by whom he had two children, Eubuleus and Triptolemus. That is the account given by the Argives. But the Athenians and those who with them. . . know that Triptolemus, son of Celeus, was the first to sow seed for cultivation.
7. Philostratus The Athenian, Lives of The Sophists, 2.1.553 (2nd cent. CE - missingth cent. CE)

8. Pollux, Onomasticon, 4.53 (2nd cent. CE - 3rd cent. CE)



Subjects of this text:

subject book bibliographic info
agriculture Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
aristophanes,clouds Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
aristotle,on herodotus Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 199
authority Gagne (2021), Cosmography and the Idea of Hyperborea in Ancient Greece, 317
autochthony,phrygian Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
bekos Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
bona dea Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
cybele Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
demeter Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
drews,robert Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
egypt,herodotuss representation of Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 199, 200
egypt and egyptians,greeks in Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
egypt and egyptians,herodotus and Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
egypt and egyptians Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
empire Gagne (2021), Cosmography and the Idea of Hyperborea in Ancient Greece, 317
epistēmē Gagne (2021), Cosmography and the Idea of Hyperborea in Ancient Greece, 317
ethnography Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 199, 200
funerary cult,and inscriptions' Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
hecataeus Kingsley Monti and Rood (2022), The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography, 302
hecataeus of miletus Gagne (2021), Cosmography and the Idea of Hyperborea in Ancient Greece, 317; Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
herodes atticus Kingsley Monti and Rood (2022), The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography, 302
herodotus,ethnic perspectives of Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
herodotus,historical perspective of Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
herodotus,sources used by Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
herodotus and the histories,ambiguity of Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 200
herodotus and the histories,narratorial style or narratology of Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 200
herodotus and the histories,papyri Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 199
hesiod Gagne (2021), Cosmography and the Idea of Hyperborea in Ancient Greece, 317; Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
hipponax of ephesus Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
hodological space Gagne (2021), Cosmography and the Idea of Hyperborea in Ancient Greece, 317
homer Gagne (2021), Cosmography and the Idea of Hyperborea in Ancient Greece, 317; Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 199
how,walter w. and joseph wells Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
irony Gagne (2021), Cosmography and the Idea of Hyperborea in Ancient Greece, 317
jacoby,felix Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 199
lucian,as self-conscious reception artist Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 199, 200
lucian,metaliterary aspects of Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 199, 200
lucian,relation to historiography Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 199, 200
lucian,true histories Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 199, 200
lucian Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 199, 200
magna mater Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
makrotata Gagne (2021), Cosmography and the Idea of Hyperborea in Ancient Greece, 317
midas,mother of Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
midas Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
mother of the gods,as mother of midas Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
mother of the gods,as phrygian matar Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
mother of the gods,great Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
ocean Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 199
olen Gagne (2021), Cosmography and the Idea of Hyperborea in Ancient Greece, 317
pausanias the periegete Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
persians Gagne (2021), Cosmography and the Idea of Hyperborea in Ancient Greece, 317
phasi Kingsley Monti and Rood (2022), The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography, 302
philostratus Kingsley Monti and Rood (2022), The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography, 302
phrygia and phrygians,as home of agriculture Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
phrygia and phrygians,autochthony of Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
phrygia and phrygians,egypt and Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
phrygia and phrygians,language of Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
plutarch Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
psammetichus Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
river Gagne (2021), Cosmography and the Idea of Hyperborea in Ancient Greece, 317
rome and romans Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
romm,james Gagne (2021), Cosmography and the Idea of Hyperborea in Ancient Greece, 317
second-century Kingsley Monti and Rood (2022), The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography, 302
tradition Kingsley Monti and Rood (2022), The Authoritative Historian: Tradition and Innovation in Ancient Historiography, 302
travel Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 200
truth Gagne (2021), Cosmography and the Idea of Hyperborea in Ancient Greece, 317
vannicelli,pietro Munn (2006), The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion. 80
wonder (thauma,thôma) Kirkland (2022), Herodotus and Imperial Greek Literature: Criticism, Imitation, Reception, 199, 200