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Euripides, Hecuba, 1187-1194


̓Αγάμεμνον, ἀνθρώποισιν οὐκ ἐχρῆν ποτεNever ought words to have outweighed deeds in this world, Agamemnon. No! if a man’s deeds were good, so should his words have been;


τῶν πραγμάτων τὴν γλῶσσαν ἰσχύειν πλέον:Never ought words to have outweighed deeds in this world, Agamemnon. No! if a man’s deeds were good, so should his words have been;


ἀλλ', εἴτε χρήστ' ἔδρασε, χρήστ' ἔδει λέγεινNever ought words to have outweighed deeds in this world, Agamemnon. No! if a man’s deeds were good, so should his words have been;


εἴτ' αὖ πονηρά, τοὺς λόγους εἶναι σαθρούςif, on the other hand, evil, his words should have been unsound, instead of its being possible at times to speak injustice well. There are, it is true, clever persons, who have made a science of this, but their cleverness cannot last for ever; a miserable end awaits them; no one ever yet escaped.


καὶ μὴ δύνασθαι τἄδικ' εὖ λέγειν ποτέ.if, on the other hand, evil, his words should have been unsound, instead of its being possible at times to speak injustice well. There are, it is true, clever persons, who have made a science of this, but their cleverness cannot last for ever; a miserable end awaits them; no one ever yet escaped.


σοφοὶ μὲν οὖν εἰς' οἱ τάδ' ἠκριβωκότεςif, on the other hand, evil, his words should have been unsound, instead of its being possible at times to speak injustice well. There are, it is true, clever persons, who have made a science of this, but their cleverness cannot last for ever; a miserable end awaits them; no one ever yet escaped.


ἀλλ' οὐ δύνανται διὰ τέλους εἶναι σοφοίif, on the other hand, evil, his words should have been unsound, instead of its being possible at times to speak injustice well. There are, it is true, clever persons, who have made a science of this, but their cleverness cannot last for ever; a miserable end awaits them; no one ever yet escaped.


κακῶς δ' ἀπώλοντ': οὔτις ἐξήλυξέ πω.if, on the other hand, evil, his words should have been unsound, instead of its being possible at times to speak injustice well. There are, it is true, clever persons, who have made a science of this, but their cleverness cannot last for ever; a miserable end awaits them; no one ever yet escaped.


Intertexts (texts cited often on the same page as the searched text):

19 results
1. Hesiod, Theogony, 28 (8th cent. BCE - 7th cent. BCE)

28. “You who tend sheep, full of iniquity
2. Aristophanes, Frogs, 775 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

775. τῶν ἀντιλογιῶν καὶ λυγισμῶν καὶ στροφῶν
3. Euripides, Andromache, 184-191, 319-332, 183 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

4. Euripides, Bacchae, 267-283, 328-329, 266 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

266. ὅταν λάβῃ τις τῶν λόγων ἀνὴρ σοφὸς 266. Whenever a wise man takes a good occasion for his speech, it is not a great task to speak well. You have a rapid tongue as though you were sensible, but there is no sense in your words.
5. Euripides, Electra, 899 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

6. Euripides, Hecuba, 10, 1076-1080, 11, 1114-1119, 1131-1182, 1188-1199, 12, 1200-1207, 1217-1237, 1240-1251, 1253-1255, 1258, 1260, 1265-1274, 1292, 13-19, 2, 20-24, 244, 25, 254-257, 26-29, 3, 30-39, 4, 40-49, 5, 50-59, 6, 661, 669, 675, 7, 714-715, 726-727, 736-799, 8, 800-899, 9, 900-904, 919, 923-925, 934, 946-949, 1 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

1. ̔́Ηκω νεκρῶν κευθμῶνα καὶ σκότου πύλας 1. I have come from out of the charnel-house and gates of gloom, where Hades dwells apart from gods, I Polydorus, a son of Hecuba, the daughter of Cisseus, and of Priam. Now my father, when Phrygia ’s capital
7. Euripides, Helen, 55, 138 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

138. τεθνᾶσι καὶ οὐ τεθνᾶσι: δύο δ' ἐστὸν λόγω. 138. They are dead, and not dead: it is a double story. Helen
8. Euripides, Hercules Furens, 181 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

9. Euripides, Hippolytus, 1039-1040, 486-489, 503, 925-931, 986-991, 1038 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

1038. A wizard or magician must the fellow be, to think he can first flout me, his father
10. Euripides, Iphigenia At Aulis, 1116, 1115 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

11. Euripides, Medea, 526, 576-583, 522 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

522. Needs must I now, it seems, turn orator, and, like a good helmsman on a ship with close-reefed sails, weather
12. Euripides, Orestes, 545-550, 907-908, 544 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

544. Old man, I am afraid to speak before you
13. Euripides, Phoenician Women, 470-472, 499-503, 524-525, 531-540, 588, 469 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

469. The words of truth are naturally simple
14. Euripides, Rhesus, 639 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

639. And soft shall be my words to him I hate.
15. Euripides, Suppliant Women, 195-199, 203-204, 297-300, 403, 415-416, 426-428, 1064 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

1064. What dost thou say? What is this silly riddle thou propoundest? Evadne
16. Euripides, Trojan Women, 968, 967 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

17. Plato, Apology of Socrates, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

17b. because I was a clever speaker. For I thought it the most shameless part of their conduct that they are not ashamed because they will immediately be convicted by me of falsehood by the evidence of fact, when I show myself to be not in the least a clever speaker, unless indeed they call him a clever speaker who speaks the truth; for if this is what they mean, I would agree that I am an orator—not after their fashion. Now they, as I say, have said little or nothing true; but you shall hear from me nothing but the truth. Not, however, men of Athens, speeches finely tricked out with words and phrases
18. Thucydides, The History of The Peloponnesian War, 3.67.6 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

3.67.6. Vindicate, therefore, Lacedaemonians, the Hellenic law which they have broken; and to us, the victims of its violation, grant the reward merited by our zeal. Nor let us be supplanted in your favour by their harangues, but offer an example to the Hellenes, that the contests to which you invite them are of deeds, not words: good deeds can be shortly stated, but where wrong is done a wealth of language is needed to veil its deformity.
19. Quintilian, Institutes of Oratory, 4.1 (1st cent. CE - 1st cent. CE)



Subjects of this text:

subject book bibliographic info
agon Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 89, 90
agôn/-es Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 580, 600
alexandros Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 89, 90
anaxagoras Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 16
andromache Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 90
antiope Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 90
antiphon, anti-rhetoric Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
antiphon Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 90
athens Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 16
attic law Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 90
captatio benevolentiae Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 89, 90
deception, and tragedy Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
deception, association with rhetoric Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
democracy and monarchy, debate between theseus and theban herald on Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 21
dik, h. Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 89
diodotus Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 600
dissoi logoi Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 21, 32
doxa (seeming, opinion, reputation) Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
duchemin, j. Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 89
eidôla, as prologues Rutter and Sparkes, Word and Image in Ancient Greece (2012) 158
eidôla, in tragedy Rutter and Sparkes, Word and Image in Ancient Greece (2012) 158
eidôla Rutter and Sparkes, Word and Image in Ancient Greece (2012) 158
enlightenment, politics and Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 146
euripides, andromache, doxa in Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
euripides, andromache Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
euripides, eidôla Rutter and Sparkes, Word and Image in Ancient Greece (2012) 158
euripides, gorgianic elements in Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
euripides, hecuba Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
euripides, hecubas rhetoric in Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
euripides, on (im)materiality of lies Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
euripides, on doxa and deception Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
euripides, on lie-detection Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
euripides, on rhetoric of anti-rhetoric Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
euripides, on spartans Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
euripides Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 89, 90
exordium Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 89
gnômê Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 90
gorgias, and euripides Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
gorgias, encomium of helen Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
gorgias, his definition of doxa Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
gorgias, role within fifth-century enlightenment Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
gorgias, theory of apate Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
hecuba (hecabe) Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 16, 177, 580
hyperbaton Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 89
isocrates Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 90
justice Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 32
language, polyneices on truth and justice, in phoenician women Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 32
language, rhetoric Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 21, 32, 33, 146
lloyd, m. Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 89, 90
logos Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 600
mastronarde, d. j. Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 90
materiality, in euripides, of discourse Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
materiality, in euripides Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
medea, rhetoric and sophia in Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 21
menelaus Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
monarchy and democracy, debate between theseus and theban herald on Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 21
muses Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 33
oratory Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 90
osullivan, p. Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 580, 600
palamedes Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 90
pericles Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 600
persuasion ( peitho ) Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
phoenician women Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 32
priam Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 89
protagoras Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 21, 32
prothesis Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 90
rhetoric, of anti-rhetoric Hesk, Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens (2000) 283
rhetoric Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 89, 90; Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 580, 600; Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 21, 32, 33, 146
rhetorical aporia Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 89, 90
rohde, e. Rutter and Sparkes, Word and Image in Ancient Greece (2012) 158
slander Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 89, 90
socrates Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 33
sophia, wisdom ambivalence of Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 146
sophia, wisdom rhetoric and Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 21, 32, 33
sophia, wisdom truth contrasted with justice Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 32
sophism expansion of professions and Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 33
sophism of teiresias in bacchae Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 146
sophism polyneices on truth and justice in phoenician women and Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 32
speaker Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 89, 90
sunesis' Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 146
suppliant women on rhetoric Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 21
suppliant women theban herald, debate on democracy and monarchy between theseus and Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 21
thucydides Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 600
topos Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 90
trial–debate Poet and Orator: A Symbiotic Relationship in Democratic Athens (2019)" 90
tyrrell, w.b. Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 16
tzanetou, a. Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 177