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Euripides, Hecuba, 1187-1194


̓Αγάμεμνον, ἀνθρώποισιν οὐκ ἐχρῆν ποτεNever ought words to have outweighed deeds in this world, Agamemnon. No! if a man’s deeds were good, so should his words have been;


τῶν πραγμάτων τὴν γλῶσσαν ἰσχύειν πλέον:Never ought words to have outweighed deeds in this world, Agamemnon. No! if a man’s deeds were good, so should his words have been;


ἀλλ', εἴτε χρήστ' ἔδρασε, χρήστ' ἔδει λέγεινNever ought words to have outweighed deeds in this world, Agamemnon. No! if a man’s deeds were good, so should his words have been;


εἴτ' αὖ πονηρά, τοὺς λόγους εἶναι σαθρούςif, on the other hand, evil, his words should have been unsound, instead of its being possible at times to speak injustice well. There are, it is true, clever persons, who have made a science of this, but their cleverness cannot last for ever; a miserable end awaits them; no one ever yet escaped.


καὶ μὴ δύνασθαι τἄδικ' εὖ λέγειν ποτέ.if, on the other hand, evil, his words should have been unsound, instead of its being possible at times to speak injustice well. There are, it is true, clever persons, who have made a science of this, but their cleverness cannot last for ever; a miserable end awaits them; no one ever yet escaped.


σοφοὶ μὲν οὖν εἰς' οἱ τάδ' ἠκριβωκότεςif, on the other hand, evil, his words should have been unsound, instead of its being possible at times to speak injustice well. There are, it is true, clever persons, who have made a science of this, but their cleverness cannot last for ever; a miserable end awaits them; no one ever yet escaped.


ἀλλ' οὐ δύνανται διὰ τέλους εἶναι σοφοίif, on the other hand, evil, his words should have been unsound, instead of its being possible at times to speak injustice well. There are, it is true, clever persons, who have made a science of this, but their cleverness cannot last for ever; a miserable end awaits them; no one ever yet escaped.


κακῶς δ' ἀπώλοντ': οὔτις ἐξήλυξέ πω.if, on the other hand, evil, his words should have been unsound, instead of its being possible at times to speak injustice well. There are, it is true, clever persons, who have made a science of this, but their cleverness cannot last for ever; a miserable end awaits them; no one ever yet escaped.


Intertexts (texts cited often on the same page as the searched text):

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1. Hesiod, Theogony, 28 (8th cent. BCE - 7th cent. BCE)

28. “You who tend sheep, full of iniquity
2. Euripides, Andromache, 320, 319 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

319. ὦ δόξα δόξα, μυρίοισι δὴ βροτῶν
3. Euripides, Bacchae, 267-283, 328-329, 266 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

266. ὅταν λάβῃ τις τῶν λόγων ἀνὴρ σοφὸς 266. Whenever a wise man takes a good occasion for his speech, it is not a great task to speak well. You have a rapid tongue as though you were sensible, but there is no sense in your words.
4. Euripides, Hecuba, 10, 1076-1080, 11, 1118-1119, 1188-1194, 12, 1240-1251, 1255, 1260, 1267, 1270, 1292, 13-19, 2, 20-25, 254-255, 26-29, 3, 30-39, 4, 40-49, 5, 50-59, 6, 675, 7, 714-715, 785-799, 8, 800-899, 9, 900-904, 946-949, 1 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

1. ̔́Ηκω νεκρῶν κευθμῶνα καὶ σκότου πύλας 1. I have come from out of the charnel-house and gates of gloom, where Hades dwells apart from gods, I Polydorus, a son of Hecuba, the daughter of Cisseus, and of Priam. Now my father, when Phrygia ’s capital
5. Euripides, Helen, 138 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

138. τεθνᾶσι καὶ οὐ τεθνᾶσι: δύο δ' ἐστὸν λόγω. 138. They are dead, and not dead: it is a double story. Helen
6. Euripides, Hippolytus, 926-931, 925 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

925. Fie upon thee! man needs should have some certain test set up to try his friends, some touchstone of their hearts, to know each friend whether he be true or false; all men should have two voices, one the voice of honesty, expediency’s the other
7. Euripides, Medea, 579-583, 526 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

8. Euripides, Phoenician Women, 470-472, 499-503, 469 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

469. The words of truth are naturally simple
9. Euripides, Rhesus, 639 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

639. And soft shall be my words to him I hate.
10. Euripides, Suppliant Women, 195-199, 297-300, 403, 426-428, 1064 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

1064. What dost thou say? What is this silly riddle thou propoundest? Evadne
11. Plato, Apology of Socrates, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

17b. because I was a clever speaker. For I thought it the most shameless part of their conduct that they are not ashamed because they will immediately be convicted by me of falsehood by the evidence of fact, when I show myself to be not in the least a clever speaker, unless indeed they call him a clever speaker who speaks the truth; for if this is what they mean, I would agree that I am an orator—not after their fashion. Now they, as I say, have said little or nothing true; but you shall hear from me nothing but the truth. Not, however, men of Athens, speeches finely tricked out with words and phrases
12. Thucydides, The History of The Peloponnesian War, 3.67.6 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

3.67.6. Vindicate, therefore, Lacedaemonians, the Hellenic law which they have broken; and to us, the victims of its violation, grant the reward merited by our zeal. Nor let us be supplanted in your favour by their harangues, but offer an example to the Hellenes, that the contests to which you invite them are of deeds, not words: good deeds can be shortly stated, but where wrong is done a wealth of language is needed to veil its deformity.


Subjects of this text:

subject book bibliographic info
antiphon,anti-rhetoric Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
deception,and tragedy Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
deception,association with rhetoric Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
democracy and monarchy,debate between theseus and theban herald on Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 21
dissoi logoi Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 21, 32
doxa (seeming,opinion,reputation) Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
eidôla,,as prologues Rutter and Sparkes (2012), Word and Image in Ancient Greece, 158
eidôla,,in tragedy Rutter and Sparkes (2012), Word and Image in Ancient Greece, 158
eidôla Rutter and Sparkes (2012), Word and Image in Ancient Greece, 158
enlightenment,politics and Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 146
euripides,andromache,doxa in Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
euripides,andromache Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
euripides,eidôla Rutter and Sparkes (2012), Word and Image in Ancient Greece, 158
euripides,gorgianic elements in Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
euripides,hecuba Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
euripides,hecubas rhetoric in Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
euripides,on (im)materiality of lies Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
euripides,on doxa and deception Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
euripides,on lie-detection Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
euripides,on rhetoric of anti-rhetoric Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
euripides,on spartans Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
gorgias,and euripides Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
gorgias,encomium of helen Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
gorgias,his definition of doxa Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
gorgias,role within fifth-century enlightenment Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
gorgias,theory of apate Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
justice Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 32
language,polyneices on truth and justice,in phoenician women Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 32
language,rhetoric Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 21, 32, 33, 146
materiality,in euripides,of discourse Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
materiality,in euripides Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
medea,rhetoric and sophia in Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 21
menelaus Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
monarchy and democracy,debate between theseus and theban herald on Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 21
muses Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 33
persuasion ( peitho ) Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
phoenician women Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 32
protagoras Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 21, 32
rhetoric,of anti-rhetoric Hesk (2000), Deception and Democracy in Classical Athens, 283
rhetoric Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 21, 32, 33, 146
rohde,e. Rutter and Sparkes (2012), Word and Image in Ancient Greece, 158
socrates Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 33
sophia,wisdom ambivalence of Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 146
sophia,wisdom rhetoric and Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 21, 32, 33
sophia,wisdom truth contrasted with justice Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 32
sophism expansion of professions and Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 33
sophism of teiresias in bacchae Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 146
sophism polyneices on truth and justice in phoenician women and Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 32
sunesis' Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 146
suppliant women on rhetoric Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 21
suppliant women theban herald,debate on democracy and monarchy between theseus and Pucci (2016), Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay, 21