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Euripides, Bacchae, 201


πατρίους παραδοχάς, ἅς θʼ ὁμήλικας χρόνῳWe mortals have no cleverness in the eyes of the the gods. Dodds admits that the text, as it appears in Murray, should be translated this way, but feels that the line should mean nor do we use cleverness on the gods or something similar. He argues for another reading that would allow this. Our ancestral traditions, and those which we have held throughout our lives, no argument will overturn, not even if some craftiness should be discovered by the depths of our wits. This translation, though literal, fudges on the meaning: ἀκραὶ φρένες must mean something like best or most subtle minds. Will anyone say that I do not respect old age


Intertexts (texts cited often on the same page as the searched text):

16 results
1. Euripides, Andromache, 167, 166 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

166. σαίρειν τε δῶμα τοὐμὸν ἐκ χρυσηλάτων
2. Euripides, Bacchae, 100-104, 11, 1185, 1338-1339, 170-200, 202-369, 395-396, 424-431, 451, 519-527, 55-57, 641-656, 88-99, 992-996, 10 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

10. αἰνῶ δὲ Κάδμον, ἄβατον ὃς πέδον τόδε 10. I praise Kadmos, who has made this place hallowed, the shrine of his daughter; and I have covered it all around with the cluster-bearing leaf of the vine.I have left the wealthy lands of the Lydians and Phrygians, the sun-parched plains of the Persians
3. Euripides, Cretes (Fragmenta Papyracea), 472 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

4. Euripides, Electra, 404-405, 190 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

5. Euripides, Hecuba, 1115, 1114 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

6. Euripides, Helen, 1227-1228, 132, 138, 160-161, 327, 73, 118 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

118. ὥσπερ γε σέ, οὐδὲν ἧσσον, ὀφθαλμοῖς ὁρῶ. 118. I saw her with my own eyes, just as I see you, no less. Helen
7. Euripides, Ion, 103-111, 136-140, 150, 94-97, 102 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

8. Euripides, Phoenician Women, 1540-1545, 302-303, 1539 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

1539. Why, daughter
9. Lysias, Orations, 6.10 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

10. Sophocles, Antigone, 455-457, 454 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

11. Sophocles, Electra, 920 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

12. Sophocles, Oedipus At Colonus, 891 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

13. Xenophon, Memoirs, 4.4.19 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

4.4.19. Do you know what is meant by unwritten laws, Hippias? Yes, those that are uniformly observed in every country. Could you say that men made them? Nay, how could that be, seeing that they cannot all meet together and do not speak the same language? Then by whom have these laws been made, do you suppose? I think that the gods made these laws for men. For among all men the first law is to fear the gods.
14. New Testament, John, 15.1 (1st cent. CE - 1st cent. CE)

15.1. I am the true vine, and my Father is the farmer.
15. New Testament, Matthew, 26.26-26.28 (1st cent. CE - 1st cent. CE)

26.26. As they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks for it, and broke it. He gave to the disciples, and said, "Take, eat; this is my body. 26.27. He took the cup, gave thanks, and gave to them, saying, "All of you drink it 26.28. for this is my blood of the new covet, which is poured out for many for the remission of sins.
16. Clement of Alexandria, Exhortation To The Greeks, 12.119-12.120 (2nd cent. CE - 3rd cent. CE)



Subjects of this text:

subject book bibliographic info
agamemnon, suppliants Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 612
alcestis Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 925
ananke(necessity) Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 148
andromache Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 925
anthropomorphism, conflation/split of divine image with cosmic principle Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 147, 148
anthropomorphism, dual cosmic/anthropomorphic divinity in bacchae Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 147, 148
aphrodite, dual anthropomorphic and cosmic nature of Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 148
aphrodite Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 178
athens Bickerman and Tropper, Studies in Jewish and Christian History (2007) 539
bacchae Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 381
billings, j. xviii Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 381
cadmus Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 177, 178, 180
characters, minor Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 925
chorus (male, female), of e. bacchae Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 177
colloquialisms Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 177
concepts/values/beliefs Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174, 178, 180
context/environment/milieu, socio-cultural, ideological Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174
cult-establishment/foundation Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 180
cult/ritual/worship Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174, 175, 178, 180
cyclops Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 612
delphi Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 612
dionyso(u)s Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 381, 925
electra Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 612
enlightenment, politics and Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 147, 158
euripides, bacchae Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174, 177, 178
euripides, exodos (missing part/lacuna) of Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 180
euripides Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 180
genitives of exclamations Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 177
hecuba (hecabe) Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 925
helen Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 925
hypsipyle Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 612
initiands/initiates/initiation Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174
ion Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 612
jesus christ, and dionysus Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 175
jesus christ Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 175
judas Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 177
justice (δίκη)/retribution (divine) Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 180
knox, b.m.w. Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 612
kyriakou, p. xxii Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 925
lists Bickerman and Tropper, Studies in Jewish and Christian History (2007) 539
lloyd, m. Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 612
lloyd, michael Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 144
makarismos Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174, 175
mystery Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174
mystic initiation Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174
nicodemus Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 180
oikeia pragmata Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 612
oral law Bickerman and Tropper, Studies in Jewish and Christian History (2007) 539
orestes Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 612
paul st. Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 175
pentheus Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174, 177, 178
pharisees Bickerman and Tropper, Studies in Jewish and Christian History (2007) 539
philia (friendship) Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 180
philosophers Bickerman and Tropper, Studies in Jewish and Christian History (2007) 539
priesthood Bickerman and Tropper, Studies in Jewish and Christian History (2007) 539
prodicus Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 148
protagoras Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 148
realism Markantonatos, Brill's Companion to Euripides (2015) 612
reception, of concepts and ideas Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174, 175, 177, 178, 180
redemption Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 175
refiguration Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 180
replacement/substitution of names Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174, 175, 177
resemblances, reception Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174, 175, 177, 178, 180
resemblances Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 175, 180
schools Bickerman and Tropper, Studies in Jewish and Christian History (2007) 539
secrecy Bickerman and Tropper, Studies in Jewish and Christian History (2007) 539
segal, c. p. Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 144, 148
semele Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 147; Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 180
shechemites Bickerman and Tropper, Studies in Jewish and Christian History (2007) 539
sophia, wisdom in bacchae Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 158
sophia/sophos (wisdom) Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 178, 180
sophia and philia Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 180
sophism of teiresias in bacchae' Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 158
sophism of teiresias in bacchae Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 144, 147, 148
style Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 177
suppliant women bacchae compared Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 144
sōphrosynē/sōphrōn Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 178
taplin, oliver Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 144
teiresias Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174, 177, 178, 180
temple, offices Bickerman and Tropper, Studies in Jewish and Christian History (2007) 539
thebes Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 180
theologos (iohannes) Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 180
theotokos (mother of god), and the chorus Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174
theotokos (mother of god) Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 175
variations Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174
winnington-ingram, r. p. Pucci, Euripides' Revolution Under Cover: An Essay (2016) 148
xxii, dramatis personae (characters) Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 180
zeus Xanthaki-Karamanou, 'Dionysiac' Dialogues: Euripides' 'Bacchae', Aeschylus and 'Christus Patiens' (2022) 174