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Euripides, Andromache, 670-692
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καὶ μὴν ἴσον γ' ἀνήρ τε καὶ γυνὴ στένειAgain, thou mayst say, husband and wife have an equally strong case if she is wronged by him, and similarly if he find her guilty of indiscretion in his house; yet while he has ample powers in his own hands, she depends on parents and friends for her case. Surely then I am right in helping my own kin! Thou art in thy dotage; for thou wilt do me more good by speaking of my generalship than by concealing it. Helen's trouble was not of her own choosing, but sent by heaven, and it proved a great benefit to Hellas; her sons, till then untried in war or arms, turned to deeds of prowess, and it is experience which teaches man all he knows. I showed my wisdom in refraining from slaying my wife, directly I caught sight of her. Would that thou too hadst ne'er slain Phocus! All this I bring before thee in pure good-will, not from anger. But if thou resent it, thy tongue may wag till it ache, yet shall I gain by prudent forethought.
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παύσασθον ἤδη — λῷστα γὰρ μακρῷ τάδε —LEADER: Cease now from idle words, 'twere better far, for fear ye both alike go wrong. PELEUS: Alas! what evil customs now prevail in Hellas! Whenever the host sets up a trophy o'er the foe, men no more consider this the work of those who really toiled, but the general gets the credit for it. Now he was but one among ten thousand others to brandish his spear; he only did the work of one; but yet he wins more praise than they. Again, as magistrates in all the grandeur of office they scorn the common folk, though they are naught themselves; whereas those others are ten thousand times more wise than they, if daring combine with judgment. Even so thou and thy brother, exalted by the toilsome efforts of others, now take your seats in all the swollen pride of Trojan fame and Trojan generalship. But I will teach thee henceforth to consider Idaean Paris a foe less terrible than Peleus, unless forthwith thou pack from this roof, thou and thy childless daughter too, whom my own true son will hale through his halls by the hair of her head; for her barrenness will not let her endure fruitfulness in others, because she has no children herself. Still if misfortune prevents her bearing offspring, is that a reason why we should be left childless?
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1. Homer, Odyssey, 11.438 (8th cent. BCE - 7th cent. BCE)

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10. ῥιφθέντα πύργων ̓Αστυάνακτ' ἀπ' ὀρθίων
3. Euripides, Children of Heracles, 102-113, 123-129, 23, 25, 254-264, 33, 61-79, 101 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

101. εἰκὸς θεῶν ἱκτῆρας αἰδεῖσθαι, ξένε 101. rend= Copreus 101. Stranger, ’tis but right we should reverence the gods’ suppliants, suffering none with violent hand to make them Reading σφε (Musgrave) for MS. σε . Schmidt, τάδ’ ἀλιτεῖν σ’ ἕδη thee (i.e. Copreus) to transgress against. leave the altars, for that will dread Justice ne’er permit. Copreu
4. Euripides, Hercules Furens, 241-246, 967-994, 240 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

5. Euripides, Iphigenia Among The Taurians, 525 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

6. Euripides, Trojan Women, 925-950, 924 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)



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