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Diogenes Laertius, Lives Of The Philosophers, 8.7


nanBut the book which passes as the work of Pythagoras is by Lysis of Tarentum, a Pythagorean, who fled to Thebes and taught Epaminondas. Heraclides, the son of Serapion, in his Epitome of Sotion, says that he also wrote a poem On the Universe, and secondly the Sacred Poem which begins:Young men, come reverence in quietudeAll these my words;thirdly On the Soul, fourthly Of Piety, fifthly Helothales the Father of Epicharmus of Cos, sixthly Croton, and other works as well. The same authority says that the poem On the Mysteries was written by Hippasus to defame Pythagoras, and that many others written by Aston of Croton were ascribed to Pythagoras.


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1. Diogenes Laertius, Lives of The Philosophers, 8.6, 8.32, 8.36, 8.41 (3rd cent. CE - 3rd cent. CE)

8.6. There are some who insist, absurdly enough, that Pythagoras left no writings whatever. At all events Heraclitus, the physicist, almost shouts in our ear, Pythagoras, son of Mnesarchus, practised inquiry beyond all other men, and in this selection of his writings made himself a wisdom of his own, showing much learning but poor workmanship. The occasion of this remark was the opening words of Pythagoras's treatise On Nature, namely, Nay, I swear by the air I breathe, I swear by the water I drink, I will never suffer censure on account of this work. Pythagoras in fact wrote three books. On Education, On Statesmanship, and On Nature. 8.32. The whole air is full of souls which are called genii or heroes; these are they who send men dreams and signs of future disease and health, and not to men alone, but to sheep also and cattle as well; and it is to them that purifications and lustrations, all divination, omens and the like, have reference. The most momentous thing in human life is the art of winning the soul to good or to evil. Blest are the men who acquire a good soul; they can never be at rest, nor ever keep the same course two days together. 8.36. This is what Alexander says that he found in the Pythagorean memoirs. What follows is Aristotle's.But Pythagoras's great dignity not even Timon overlooked, who, although he digs at him in his Silli, speaks ofPythagoras, inclined to witching works and ways,Man-snarer, fond of noble periphrase.Xenophanes confirms the statement about his having been different people at different times in the elegiacs beginning:Now other thoughts, another path, I show.What he says of him is as follows:They say that, passing a belaboured whelp,He, full of pity, spake these words of dole:Stay, smite not ! 'Tis a friend, a human soul;I knew him straight whenas I heard him yelp ! 8.41. Hermippus gives another anecdote. Pythagoras, on coming to Italy, made a subterranean dwelling and enjoined on his mother to mark and record all that passed, and at what hour, and to send her notes down to him until he should ascend. She did so. Pythagoras some time afterwards came up withered and looking like a skeleton, then went into the assembly and declared he had been down to Hades, and even read out his experiences to them. They were so affected that they wept and wailed and looked upon him as divine, going so far as to send their wives to him in hopes that they would learn some of his doctrines; and so they were called Pythagorean women. Thus far Hermippus.


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appearance (phantasia), distinguished from judgement, belief, as involving assent, questioning of appearances Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
archytas of tarentum Bryan, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 165; Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 165
aristoxenus Bryan, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 165; Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 165
centrone, b. Huffman, A History of Pythagoreanism (2019) 69
diels, h. Huffman, A History of Pythagoreanism (2019) 69
diogenes laertius Huffman, A History of Pythagoreanism (2019) 69
dobbin, robert Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
epictetus, stoic, ensures freedom Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
epictetus, stoic, proairesis Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
occelus of lucania Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 165
panaetius, stoic Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
philosophy, origin of notion of αἵρεσις Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 33
posidonius, stoic, posidonius recognizes will-power Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
precepts, in the pythagorean tradition' Huffman, A History of Pythagoreanism (2019) 69
proairesis, epictetus Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
pythagoras, writings of Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 165
pythagoras Gruen, Rethinking the Other in Antiquity (2011) 322; Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 165
pythagoreans, writings of Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 165
saturninus Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 33
stobaeus Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 165
succession, previous notions of Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 33
thracians Gruen, Rethinking the Other in Antiquity (2011) 322
timaeus of locri Wardy and Warren, Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy (2018) 165
tripartitum Huffman, A History of Pythagoreanism (2019) 69
valentinians Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 33
will, boulēsis Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
will, freedom Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
will, proairesis Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
will, voluntary, upto us, responsibility Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
will, will-power opp. questioning appearances Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
willpower Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
zeno of citium, stoic, hence different conception of freedom from emotion(apatheia) Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
zeno of citium, stoic Sorabji, Emotion and Peace of Mind: From Stoic Agitation to Christian Temptation (2000) 331
zhmud, l. Huffman, A History of Pythagoreanism (2019) 69
γνώμη Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 33
διαδοχή Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 33
ἀρχηγέτης Boulluec, The Notion of Heresy in Greek Literature in the Second and Third Centuries (2022) 33