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Diogenes Laertius, Lives Of The Philosophers, 7.174

nan To the solitary man who talked to himself he remarked, You are not talking to a bad man. When some one twitted him on his old age, his reply was, I too am ready to depart; but when again I consider that I am in all points in good health and that I can still write and read, I am content to wait. We are told that he wrote down Zeno's lectures on oyster-shells and the blade-bones of oxen through lack of money to buy paper. Such was he; and yet, although Zeno had many other eminent disciples, he was able to succeed him in the headship of the school.He has left some very fine writings, which are as follows:Of Time.Of Zeno's Natural Philosophy, two books.Interpretations of Heraclitus, four books.De Sensu.Of Art.A Reply to Democritus.A Reply to Aristarchus.A Reply to Herillus.Of Impulse, two books.

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1. Cicero, On The Nature of The Gods, 2.15-2.16, 2.87-2.88, 2.118 (2nd cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE) 2.15. And the fourth and most potent cause of the belief he said was the uniform motion and revolution of the heavens, and the varied groupings and ordered beauty of the sun, moon and stars, the very sight of which was in itself enough to prove that these things are not the mere effect of chance. When a man goes into a house, a wrestling-school or a public assembly and observes in all that goes on arrangement, regularity and system, he cannot possibly suppose that these things come about without a cause: he realizes that there is someone who presides and controls. Far more therefore with the vast movements and phases of the heavenly bodies, and these ordered processes of a multitude of enormous masses of matter, which throughout the countless ages of the infinite past have never in the smallest degree played false, is he compelled to infer that these mighty world-motions are regulated by some Mind. 2.16. Extremely acute of intellect as is Chrysippus, nevertheless his utterance here might well appear to have been learnt from the very lips of Nature, and not discovered by himself. 'If (he says) there be something in the world that man's mind and human reason, strength and power are incapable of producing, that which produces it must necessarily be superior to man; now the heavenly bodies and all those things that display a never-ending regularity cannot be created by man; therefore that which creates them is superior to man; yet what better name is there for this than "god"? Indeed, if gods do not exist, what can there be in the universe superior to man? for he alone possesses reason, which is the most excellent thing that can exist; but for any human being in existence to think that there is nothing in the whole world superior to himself would be an insane piece of arrogance; therefore there is something superior to man; therefore God does exist.' 2.87. Let someone therefore prove that it could have been better. But no one will ever prove this, and anyone who essays to improve some detail will either make it worse or will be demanding an improvement impossible in the nature of things. "But if the structure of the world in all its parts is such that it could not have been better whether in point of utility or beauty, let us consider js is the result of chance, or whether on the contrary the parts of the world are in such a condition that they could not possibly have cohered together if they were not controlled by intelligence and by divine providence. If then that produces of nature are better than those of art, and if art produces nothing without reason, nature too cannot be deemed to be without reason. When you see a statue or a painting, you recognize the exercise of art; when you observe from a distance the course of a ship, you do not hesitate to assume that its motion is guided by reason and by art; when you look at a sun‑dial or a water-clock, you infer that it tells the time by art and not by chance; how then can it be consistent to suppose that the world, which includes both the works of art in question, the craftsmen who made them, and everything else besides, can be devoid of purpose and of reason? 2.88. Suppose a traveller to carry into Scythia or Britain the orrery recently constructed by our friend Posidonius, which at each revolution reproduces the same motions of the sun, the moon and the five planets that take place in the heavens every twenty-four hundred, would any single native doubt that this orrery was the work of a rational being? This thinkers however raise doubts about the world itself from which all things arise and have their being, and debate whether it is the produce of chance or necessity of some sort, or of divine reason and intelligence; they think more highly of the achievement of Archimedes in making a model of the revolutions of the firmament than of that of nature in creating them, although the perfection of the original shows a craftsmanship many times as great as does the counterfeit. 2.118. But the stars are of a fiery substance, and for this reason they are nourished by the vapours of the earth, the sea and the waters, which are raised up by the sun out of the fields which it warms and out of the waters; and when nourished and renewed by these vapours the stars and the whole aether shed them back again, and then once more draw them up from the same source, with the loss of none of their matter, or only of an extremely small part which is consumed by the fire of the stars and the flame of the aether. As a consequence of this, so our school believe, though it used to be said that Panaetius questioned the doctrine, there will ultimately occur a conflagration of the whole while, because when the moisture has been used up neither can the earth be nourished nor will the air continue to flow, being unable to rise upward after it has drunk up all the water; thus nothing will remain but fire, by which, as a living being and a god, once again a new world may be created and the ordered universe be restored as before.
2. Lucretius Carus, On The Nature of Things, 3.371, 5.622 (1st cent. BCE - 1st cent. BCE)
3. Numenius of Apamea, Fragments, 25 (2nd cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)
4. Numenius of Apamea, Fragments, 25 (2nd cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)
5. Diogenes Laertius, Lives of The Philosophers, 2.120, 7.2, 7.13, 7.24-7.25, 7.34, 7.36, 7.162-7.163, 7.177, 9.5, 9.8 (3rd cent. CE - 3rd cent. CE) 2.120. Nine dialogues of his are extant written in frigid style, Moschus, Aristippus or Callias, Ptolemy, Chaerecrates, Metrocles, Anaximenes, Epigenes, To his Daughter, Aristotle. Heraclides relates that Zeno, the founder of the Stoic school, was one of Stilpo's pupils; Hermippus that Stilpo died at a great age after taking wine to hasten his end.I have written an epitaph on him also:Surely you know Stilpo the Megarian; old age and then disease laid him low, a formidable pair. But he found in wine a charioteer too strong for that evil team; he quaffed it eagerly and was borne along.He was also ridiculed by Sophilus the Comic poet in his drama The Wedding:What Charinus says is just Stilpo's stoppers. 7.2. He was a pupil of Crates, as stated above. Next they say he attended the lectures of Stilpo and Xenocrates for ten years – so Timocrates says in his Dion – and Polemo as well. It is stated by Hecato and by Apollonius of Tyre in his first book on Zeno that he consulted the oracle to know what he should do to attain the best life, and that the god's response was that he should take on the complexion of the dead. Whereupon, perceiving what this meant, he studied ancient authors. Now the way he came across Crates was this. He was shipwrecked on a voyage from Phoenicia to Peiraeus with a cargo of purple. He went up into Athens and sat down in a bookseller's shop, being then a man of thirty. 7.13. It is said that he had more than a thousand talents when he came to Greece, and that he lent this money on bottomry. He used to eat little loaves and honey and to drink a little wine of good bouquet. He rarely employed men-servants; once or twice indeed he might have a young girl to wait on him in order not to seem a misogynist. He shared the same house with Persaeus, and when the latter brought in a little flute-player he lost no time in leading her straight to Persaeus. They tell us he readily adapted himself to circumstances, so much so that King Antigonus often broke in on him with a noisy party, and once took him along with other revellers to Aristocles the musician; Zeno, however, in a little while gave them the slip. 7.24. One day at a banquet he was reclining in silence and was asked the reason: whereupon he bade his critic carry word to the king that there was one present who knew how to hold his tongue. Now those who inquired of him were ambassadors from King Ptolemy, and they wanted to know what message they should take back from him to the king. On being asked how he felt about abuse, he replied, As an envoy feels who is dismissed without an answer. Apollonius of Tyre tells us how, when Crates laid hold on him by the cloak to drag him from Stilpo, Zeno said, The right way to seize a philosopher, Crates, is by the ears: persuade me then and drag me off by them; but, if you use violence, my body will be with you, but my mind with Stilpo. 7.25. According to Hippobotus he forgathered with Diodorus, with whom he worked hard at dialectic. And when he was already making progress, he would enter Polemo's school: so far from all self-conceit was he. In consequence Polemo is said to have addressed him thus: You slip in, Zeno, by the garden door – I'm quite aware of it – you filch my doctrines and give them a Phoenician make-up. A dialectician once showed him seven logical forms concerned with the sophism known as The Reaper, and Zeno asked him how much he wanted for them. Being told a hundred drachmas, he promptly paid two hundred: to such lengths would he go in his love of learning. They say too that he first introduced the word Duty and wrote a treatise on the subject. It is said, moreover, that he corrected Hesiod's lines thus:He is best of all men who follows good advice: good too is he who finds out all things for himself. 7.34. That the Republic is the work of Zeno is attested by Chrysippus in his De Republica. And he discussed amatory subjects in the beginning of that book of his which is entitled The Art of Love. Moreover, he writes much the same in his Interludes. So much for the criticisms to be found not only in Cassius but in Isidorus of Pergamum, the rhetorician. Isidorus likewise affirms that the passages disapproved by the school were expunged from his works by Athenodorus the Stoic, who was in charge of the Pergamene library; and that afterwards, when Athenodorus was detected and compromised, they were replaced. So much concerning the passages in his writings which are regarded as spurious. 7.36. of the many disciples of Zeno the following are the most famous: Persaeus, son of Demetrius, of Citium, whom some call a pupil and others one of the household, one of those sent him by Antigonus to act as secretary; he had been tutor to Antigonus's son Halcyoneus. And Antigonus once, wishing to make trial of him, caused some false news to be brought to him that his estate had been ravaged by the enemy, and as his countece fell, Do you see, said he, that wealth is not a matter of indifference?The following works are by Persaeus:of Kingship.The Spartan Constitution.of Marriage.of Impiety.Thyestes.of Love.Exhortations.Interludes.Four books of Anecdotes.Memorabilia.A Reply to Plato's Laws in seven books. 7.162. After meeting Polemo, says Diocles of Magnesia, while Zeno was suffering from a protracted illness, he recanted his views. The Stoic doctrine to which he attached most importance was the wise man's refusal to hold mere opinions. And against this doctrine Persaeus was contending when he induced one of a pair of twins to deposit a certain sum with Ariston and afterwards got the other to reclaim it. Ariston being thus reduced to perplexity was refuted. He was at variance with Arcesilaus; and one day when he saw an abortion in the shape of a bull with a uterus, he said, Alas, here Arcesilaus has had given into his hand an argument against the evidence of the senses. 7.163. When some Academic alleged that he had no certainty of anything, Ariston said, Do you not even see your neighbour sitting by you? and when the other answered No, he rejoined,Who can have blinded you? who robbed you of luminous eyesight?The books attributed to him are as follows:Exhortations, two books.of Zeno's Doctrines.Dialogues.Lectures, six books.Dissertations on Philosophy, seven books.Dissertations on Love.Commonplaces on Vainglory.Notebooks, twenty-five volumes.Memorabilia, three books.Anecdotes, eleven books.Against the Rhetoricians.An Answer to the Counter-pleas of Alexinus.Against the Dialecticians, three books.Letters to Cleanthes, four books.Panaetius and Sosicrates consider the Letters to be alone genuine; all the other works named they attribute to Ariston the Peripatetic. 7.177. 6. SPHAERUSAmongst those who after the death of Zeno became pupils of Cleanthes was Sphaerus of Bosporus, as already mentioned. After making considerable progress in his studies, he went to Alexandria to the court of King Ptolemy Philopator. One day when a discussion had arisen on the question whether the wise man could stoop to hold opinion, and Sphaerus had maintained that this was impossible, the king, wishing to refute him, ordered some waxen pomegranates to be put on the table. Sphaerus was taken in and the king cried out, You have given your assent to a presentation which is false. But Sphaerus was ready with a neat answer. I assented not to the proposition that they are pomegranates, but to another, that there are good grounds for thinking them to be pomegranates. Certainty of presentation and reasonable probability are two totally different things. Mnesistratus having accused him of denying that Ptolemy was a king, his reply was, Being of such quality as he is, Ptolemy is indeed a king. 9.5. He was exceptional from his boyhood; for when a youth he used to say that he knew nothing, although when he was grown up he claimed that he knew everything. He was nobody's pupil, but he declared that he inquired of himself, and learned everything from himself. Some, however, had said that he had been a pupil of Xenophanes, as we learn from Sotion, who also tells us that Ariston in his book On Heraclitus declares that he was cured of the dropsy and died of another disease. And Hippobotus has the same story.As to the work which passes as his, it is a continuous treatise On Nature, but is divided into three discourses, one on the universe, another on politics, and a third on theology. 9.8. Coming now to his particular tenets, we may state them as follows: fire is the element, all things are exchange for fire and come into being by rarefaction and condensation; but of this he gives no clear explanation. All things come into being by conflict of opposites, and the sum of things flows like a stream. Further, all that is is limited and forms one world. And it is alternately born from fire and again resolved into fire in fixed cycles to all eternity, and this is determined by destiny. of the opposites that which tends to birth or creation is called war and strife, and that which tends to destruction by fire is called concord and peace. Change he called a pathway up and down, and this determines the birth of the world.
6. Eusebius of Caesarea, Preparation For The Gospel, 14.5.12 (3rd cent. CE - 4th cent. CE)
7. Stoic School, Stoicor. Veter. Fragm., 1.10
8. Strabo, Geography, 13.614

Subjects of this text:

subject	book bibliographic info
academy,sceptical	Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68
aether	Bowen and Rochberg (2020), Hellenistic Astronomy: The Science in its contexts, 611
arcesilaus	Bryan (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247; Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68; Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
aristo of chios	Bryan (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247; Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68; Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
aristotle	Bett (2019), How to be a Pyrrhonist: The Practice and Significance of Pyrrhonian Scepticism, 24; Inwood and Warren (2020), Body and Soul in Hellenistic Philosophy, 151
bibliography,of cleanthes	Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
biography,of zeno	Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
chance	Bowen and Rochberg (2020), Hellenistic Astronomy: The Science in its contexts, 611
chrysippus	Bowen and Rochberg (2020), Hellenistic Astronomy: The Science in its contexts, 611; Bryan (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247; Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
cicero	Bryan (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247; Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68; Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
circles,sphere	Bowen and Rochberg (2020), Hellenistic Astronomy: The Science in its contexts, 611
cleanthes	Bryan (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247; Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68; Inwood and Warren (2020), Body and Soul in Hellenistic Philosophy, 151; Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
cosmos	Bowen and Rochberg (2020), Hellenistic Astronomy: The Science in its contexts, 611
democritus	Bett (2019), How to be a Pyrrhonist: The Practice and Significance of Pyrrhonian Scepticism, 24
diogenes laertius	Bryan (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247; Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
dionysius the stoic	Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
dogmatics,heraclitus as a dogmatic philosopher	Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68
embryo,embryology	Inwood and Warren (2020), Body and Soul in Hellenistic Philosophy, 151
epicureanism	Bett (2019), How to be a Pyrrhonist: The Practice and Significance of Pyrrhonian Scepticism, 24
epicurus	Bett (2019), How to be a Pyrrhonist: The Practice and Significance of Pyrrhonian Scepticism, 24
fire	Inwood and Warren (2020), Body and Soul in Hellenistic Philosophy, 151
god	Bowen and Rochberg (2020), Hellenistic Astronomy: The Science in its contexts, 611
heraclides of lembos	Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
heraclitus	Bett (2019), How to be a Pyrrhonist: The Practice and Significance of Pyrrhonian Scepticism, 24; Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68; Inwood and Warren (2020), Body and Soul in Hellenistic Philosophy, 151
humours,four basic	Inwood and Warren (2020), Body and Soul in Hellenistic Philosophy, 151
lucretius	Bett (2019), How to be a Pyrrhonist: The Practice and Significance of Pyrrhonian Scepticism, 24
marcus aurelius	Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68; Inwood and Warren (2020), Body and Soul in Hellenistic Philosophy, 151
melancholia	Inwood and Warren (2020), Body and Soul in Hellenistic Philosophy, 151
nature	Inwood and Warren (2020), Body and Soul in Hellenistic Philosophy, 151
numenius	Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68
persaeus	Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
physics	Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68
planets	Bowen and Rochberg (2020), Hellenistic Astronomy: The Science in its contexts, 611
plato	Bett (2019), How to be a Pyrrhonist: The Practice and Significance of Pyrrhonian Scepticism, 24
platonic dialogues,theaetetus	Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68
polemo	Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
posidonius	Bowen and Rochberg (2020), Hellenistic Astronomy: The Science in its contexts, 611; Inwood and Warren (2020), Body and Soul in Hellenistic Philosophy, 151
presocratics	Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68
sedley,david	Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
skepticism,academic	Bett (2019), How to be a Pyrrhonist: The Practice and Significance of Pyrrhonian Scepticism, 24
socrates	Bett (2019), How to be a Pyrrhonist: The Practice and Significance of Pyrrhonian Scepticism, 24
socrates (platonic character)	Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68
soul	Bowen and Rochberg (2020), Hellenistic Astronomy: The Science in its contexts, 611; Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68
sphaerus	Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68
stars	Inwood and Warren (2020), Body and Soul in Hellenistic Philosophy, 151
stilpo	Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
stoicism	Bett (2019), How to be a Pyrrhonist: The Practice and Significance of Pyrrhonian Scepticism, 24
stoics,origins of school	Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
stoics	Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68
strabo	Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
sun	Bowen and Rochberg (2020), Hellenistic Astronomy: The Science in its contexts, 611; Inwood and Warren (2020), Body and Soul in Hellenistic Philosophy, 151
system	Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68
theodoret	Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
vaporisation'	Inwood and Warren (2020), Body and Soul in Hellenistic Philosophy, 151
zeno of citium,biography	Wardy and Warren (2018), Authors and Authorities in Ancient Philosophy, 247
zeno of citium	Bowen and Rochberg (2020), Hellenistic Astronomy: The Science in its contexts, 611; Erler et al. (2021), Authority and Authoritative Texts in the Platonist Tradition, 68