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Diodorus Siculus, Historical Library, 15.54.2

nan Certain local oracle-mongers likewise came up to Epameinondas, saying that the Lacedaemonians were destined to meet with a great disaster by the tomb of the daughters of Leuctrus and Scedasus for the following reasons.

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1. Herodotus, Histories, 1.167, 7.140-7.142 (5th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

1.167. As for the crews of the disabled ships, the Carthaginians and Tyrrhenians drew lots for them, and of the Tyrrhenians the Agyllaioi were allotted by far the majority and these they led out and stoned to death. But afterwards, everything from Agylla that passed the place where the stoned Phocaeans lay, whether sheep or beasts of burden or men, became distorted and crippled and palsied. ,The Agyllaeans sent to Delphi, wanting to mend their offense; and the Pythian priestess told them to do what the people of Agylla do to this day: for they pay great honors to the Phocaeans, with religious rites and games and horse-races. ,Such was the end of this part of the Phocaeans. Those of them who fled to Rhegium set out from there and gained possession of that city in the Oenotrian country which is now called Hyele ; ,they founded this because they learned from a man of Posidonia that the Cyrnus whose establishment the Pythian priestess ordained was the hero, and not the island. 7.140. The Athenians had sent messages to Delphi asking that an oracle be given them, and when they had performed all due rites at the temple and sat down in the inner hall, the priestess, whose name was Aristonice, gave them this answer: , quote type="oracle" l met="dact"Wretches, why do you linger here? Rather flee from your houses and city, /l lFlee to the ends of the earth from the circle embattled of Athens! /l lThe head will not remain in its place, nor in the body, /l lNor the feet beneath, nor the hands, nor the parts between; /l lBut all is ruined, for fire and the headlong god of war speeding in a Syrian chariot will bring you low. /l /quote , quote type="oracle" l met="dact"Many a fortress too, not yours alone, will he shatter; /l lMany a shrine of the gods will he give to the flame for devouring; /l lSweating for fear they stand, and quaking for dread of the enemy, /l lRunning with gore are their roofs, foreseeing the stress of their sorrow; /l lTherefore I bid you depart from the sanctuary. /l lHave courage to lighten your evil. /l /quote 7.141. When the Athenian messengers heard that, they were very greatly dismayed, and gave themselves up for lost by reason of the evil foretold. Then Timon son of Androbulus, as notable a man as any Delphian, advised them to take boughs of supplication and in the guise of suppliants, approach the oracle a second time. ,The Athenians did exactly this; “Lord,” they said, “regard mercifully these suppliant boughs which we bring to you, and give us some better answer concerning our country. Otherwise we will not depart from your temple, but remain here until we die.” Thereupon the priestess gave them this second oracle: , quote type="oracle" l met="dact"Vainly does Pallas strive to appease great Zeus of Olympus; /l lWords of entreaty are vain, and so too cunning counsels of wisdom. /l lNevertheless I will speak to you again of strength adamantine. /l lAll will be taken and lost that the sacred border of Cecrops /l lHolds in keeping today, and the dales divine of Cithaeron; /l lYet a wood-built wall will by Zeus all-seeing be granted /l lTo the Trito-born, a stronghold for you and your children. /l /quote , quote type="oracle" l met="dact"Await not the host of horse and foot coming from Asia, /l lNor be still, but turn your back and withdraw from the foe. /l lTruly a day will come when you will meet him face to face. /l lDivine Salamis, you will bring death to women's sons /l lWhen the corn is scattered, or the harvest gathered in. /l /quote 7.142. This answer seemed to be and really was more merciful than the first, and the envoys, writing it down, departed for Athens. When the messengers had left Delphi and laid the oracle before the people, there was much inquiry concerning its meaning, and among the many opinions which were uttered, two contrary ones were especially worthy of note. Some of the elder men said that the gods answer signified that the acropolis should be saved, for in old time the acropolis of Athens had been fenced by a thorn hedge, ,which, by their interpretation, was the wooden wall. But others supposed that the god was referring to their ships, and they were for doing nothing but equipping these. Those who believed their ships to be the wooden wall were disabled by the two last verses of the oracle: quote type="oracle" l met="dact"Divine Salamis, you will bring death to women's sons /l lWhen the corn is scattered, or the harvest gathered in. /l /quote ,These verses confounded the opinion of those who said that their ships were the wooden wall, for the readers of oracles took the verses to mean that they should offer battle by sea near Salamis and be there overthrown.
2. Plato, Laws, None (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

642d. not by outward compulsion but by inner disposition. Thus, so far as I am concerned, you may speak without fear and say all you please. Clin. My story, too, Stranger, when you hear it, will show you that you may boldly say all you wish. You have probably heard how that inspired man Epimenides, who was a family connection of ours, was born in Crete ; and how ten years before the Persian War, in obedience to the oracle of the god, he went to Athens and offered certain sacrifices which the god had ordained; and how, moreover, when the Athenians were alarmed at the Persians’ expeditionary force
3. Thucydides, The History of The Peloponnesian War, 7.50.4 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

7.50.4. All was at last ready, and they were on the point of sailing away, when an eclipse of the moon, which was then at the full, took place. Most of the Athenians, deeply impressed by this occurrence, now urged the generals to wait; and Nicias, who was somewhat over-addicted to divination and practices of that kind, refused from that moment even to take the question of departure into consideration, until they had waited the thrice nine days prescribed by the soothsayers. The besiegers were thus condemned to stay in the country;
4. Xenophon, Hellenica, 3.3.3, 6.4.7 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

3.3.3. But Diopeithes, a man very well versed in oracles, said in support of Leotychides that there was also an oracle of Apollo which bade the Lacedaemonians beware of the lame kingship. Agesilaus was lame. Lysander, however, made reply to him, on behalf of Agesilaus, that he did not suppose the god was bidding them beware lest a king of theirs should get a sprain and become lame, but rather lest one who was not of the royal stock should become king. For the kingship would be lame in very truth when it was not the descendants of Heracles who were at the head of the state. 6.4.7. Besides this, they were also somewhat encouraged by the oracle which was reported — that the Lacedaemonians were destined to be defeated at the spot where stood the monument of the virgins, who are said to have killed themselves because they had been violated by certain Lacedaemonians. The Thebans accordingly decorated this monument before the battle. Furthermore, reports were brought to them 371 B.C. from the city that all the temples were opening of themselves, and that the priestesses said that the gods revealed victory. And the messengers reported that from the Heracleium the arms also had disappeared, indicating that Heracles had gone forth to the battle. Some, to be sure, say that all these things were but devices of the leaders.
5. Aristotle, Athenian Constitution, 1 (4th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

6. Plutarch, Pelopidas, 22 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

7. Aelian, Varia Historia, 5.21 (2nd cent. CE - 3rd cent. CE)

8. Pausanias, Description of Greece, 3.12.7, 7.17.14, 7.24.1 (2nd cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

3.12.7. Near the Hellenium they point out the tomb of Talthybius. The Achaeans of Aegium too say that a tomb which they show on their market-place belongs to Talthybius. It was this Talthybius whose wrath at the murder of the heralds, who were sent to Greece by king Dareius to demand earth and water, left its mark upon the whole state of the Lacedaemonians, but in Athens fell upon individuals, the members of the house of one man, Miltiades the son of Cimon. Miltiades was responsible for the death at the hands of the Athenians of those of the heralds who came to Attica . 7.17.14. So they dedicated the statue of Oebotas at Olympia and honored him in other ways, and then Sostratus of Pellene won the footrace for boys. It is still to-day a custom for the Achaeans who are going to compete at Olympia to sacrifice to Oebotas as to a hero, and, if they are successful, to place a wreath on the statue of Oebotas at Olympia . 7.24.1. By the market-place at Aegium is a temple shared by Apollo and Artemis in common; and in the market-place there is a sanctuary of Artemis, who is represented in the act of shooting an arrow, and also the grave of Talthybius the herald. There is also at Sparta a barrow serving as a tomb to Talthybius, and both cities sacrifice to him as to a hero.

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aktaion Ekroth (2013) 97
animal species,horse Ekroth (2013) 97
appeasement Ekroth (2013) 97
astrology Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305
athenian armada Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
athenians,expedition to sicily Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
attica Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305
belief Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
children,of medea Ekroth (2013) 97
chrêsmologos Johnston and Struck (2005) 219
chrēsmologoi Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
colour of animal victim,white Ekroth (2013) 97
cultic ritual practice,curse tablets Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305
death and the afterlife,curse tablets Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305
demosthenes Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
dillery,john Johnston and Struck (2005) 219
diogenes laertius Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305
diopeithes Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
divination,and authority Johnston and Struck (2005) 219
divination,and war Johnston and Struck (2005) 219
earth Ekroth (2013) 97
eclipses Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
epaminondas Ekroth (2013) 97
epaminondas (military general) Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305
ephorus of kyme Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
experience,collective religious experience Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
expertise Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
grave,of hero Ekroth (2013) 97
hekate Ekroth (2013) 97
herodotus Johnston and Struck (2005) 219
interpretation Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
kyme Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
laconia Ekroth (2013) 97
lethargy,leuktra,battle of Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
leukothea,leuktra,battle at Ekroth (2013) 97
mania Johnston and Struck (2005) 219
manteis Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
medea Ekroth (2013) 97
miltiades Ekroth (2013) 97
murder Ekroth (2013) 97
nikias Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
oibotas Ekroth (2013) 97
olympia Ekroth (2013) 97
oracles,seers/diviners (manteis) Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305
pausanias and sacrificial ritual Ekroth (2013) 97
pelopidas Ekroth (2013) 97
peloponnesian war Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305
phokaians killed at agylla Ekroth (2013) 97
plague Ekroth (2013) 97
plutarch Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305
plutarch and sacrificial ritual Ekroth (2013) 97
priests (hiereis)/priestesses (hiereiai)/priesthood Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305
propitiation Ekroth (2013) 97
religious authority,experts (exegetes) Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305
religious authority,seers/diviners (manteis) Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305
sacrifices,chrēsmologoi (seers) and' Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
sicily Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218
skedasos Ekroth (2013) 97
sparta/spartans,kings Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305
sparta/spartans Eidinow and Driediger-Murphy (2019) 218; Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305
sparta Ekroth (2013) 97
suicide Ekroth (2013) 97
talthybios Ekroth (2013) 97
tomb,of hero Ekroth (2013) 97
violent death,and hero-cults Ekroth (2013) 97
war,and hero-cult Ekroth (2013) 97
xenophon Eidinow and Kindt (2015) 305