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Dio Chrysostom, Orations, 26.6


nan Take another case: Would the unmusical person and the one who has no knowledge of harmony, melody, rhythm, and their arrangement and movement be able to deliberate successfully about music and the operations involved in music? Int. Certainly not. Dio. Another point: Would the man who has no knowledge of geometry, in deliberating about a solid body, its length, width, and height, deliberate successfully? Int. No, he also would not. Dio. Then further: Would the man who does not know how to command a ship, in deliberating about the command of a ship and the duties of the captain, deliberate competently? Int. No, he would not, either. <


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1. Dio Chrysostom, Orations, 4.112, 32.58, 33.42, 36.57, 40.35, 68.7 (1st cent. CE

32.58.  And the spell of music has been deemed no less appropriate also in social gatherings, because it brings harmony and order spontaneously into the soul and along with a kindred influence abates the unsteadiness that comes from delight in wine — I mean that very influence blended with which the unsteadiness itself is brought into tune and tempered to moderation. All this, of course, in the present instance has been reversed and changed to its opposite. For it is not by the Muses but by a kind of Corybantes that you are possessed, and you lend credibility to the mythologizings of the poets, since they do indeed bring upon the scene creatures called Bacchants, who have been maddened by song, and Satyrs too. No doubt in your case the fawn-skin and the thyrsus are lacking, nor do you, like the Bacchants, bear lions in your arms; yet in all else you do appear to me to be quite comparable to Nymphs and Satyrs. 40.35.  Do you not see in the heavens as a whole and in the divine and blessed beings that dwell therein an order and concord and self-control which is eternal, than which it is impossible to conceive of anything either more beautiful or more august? Furthermore, do you not see also the stable, righteous, everlasting concord of the elements, as they are called — air and earth and water and fire — with what reasonableness and moderation it is their nature to continue, not only to be preserved themselves, but also to preserve the entire universe? 68.7.  Therefore he is incapable of being prosperous, just as one cannot make a success­ful voyage if one does not know whither he is sailing, being carried along aimlessly on the sea, his ship at one moment sailing a straight course, should fortune so decree, but the next moment yawing, at one moment with the wind astern, the next with it dead ahead. Nay, just as with the lyre musicians first set the middle string and then tune the others to harmonize with that — otherwise they will never achieve any harmony at all — so with life, men should first come to understand best and then, having made this their goal, they should do everything else with reference to this; otherwise their life will be out of harmony and out of tune in all likelihood. ◂ previous next â–¸ Images with borders lead to more information. The thicker the border, the more information. (Details here.) UP TO: Dio Chrysostom Classical Texts LacusCurtius Home A page or image on this site is in the public domain ONLY if its URL has a total of one *asterisk. If the URL has two **asterisks, the item is copyright someone else, and used by permission or fair use. If the URL has none the item is © Bill Thayer. See my copyright page for details and contact information. Page updated: 8 Feb 08
2. Epictetus, Discourses, 1.1.13, 1.2.35, 1.6.13, 1.9.32, 1.10.7, 1.11.17, 1.11.22-1.11.23, 1.12.10, 1.19.7, 1.26.6, 1.28.19, 1.29.9, 2.8.2, 2.23.23, 3.1.42, 3.7.4, 4.7.26, 4.8.2 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

3. New Testament, Galatians, 2.17, 6.14 (1st cent. CE - 1st cent. CE)

2.17. But if, while we sought to be justified in Christ, we ourselvesalso were found sinners, is Christ a servant of sin? Certainly not! 6.14. But far be it from me to boast, except inthe cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has beencrucified to me, and I to the world.
4. New Testament, Romans, 3.4, 3.6, 6.2, 9.14 (1st cent. CE - 1st cent. CE)

3.4. May it never be! Yes, let God be found true, but every man a liar. As it is written, "That you might be justified in your words, And might prevail when you come into judgment. 3.6. May it never be! For then how will God judge the world? 6.2. May it never be! We who died to sin, how could we live in it any longer? 9.14. What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? May it never be!
5. Seneca The Younger, Letters, 60.3 (1st cent. CE - 1st cent. CE)



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diatribe, style Malherbe et al., Light from the Gentiles: Hellenistic Philosophy and Early Christianity: Collected Essays of Abraham J (2014) 107
diatribe Malherbe et al., Light from the Gentiles: Hellenistic Philosophy and Early Christianity: Collected Essays of Abraham J (2014) 107
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dion of prousa Stanton, Unity and Disunity in Greek and Christian Thought under the Roman Peace (2021) 154
epictetus Malherbe et al., Light from the Gentiles: Hellenistic Philosophy and Early Christianity: Collected Essays of Abraham J (2014) 107
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hermetic writers Stanton, Unity and Disunity in Greek and Christian Thought under the Roman Peace (2021) 154
humans united with universe Stanton, Unity and Disunity in Greek and Christian Thought under the Roman Peace (2021) 154
interlocutor, in diatribe Malherbe et al., Light from the Gentiles: Hellenistic Philosophy and Early Christianity: Collected Essays of Abraham J (2014) 107
kata phusin Stanton, Unity and Disunity in Greek and Christian Thought under the Roman Peace (2021) 154
lucian Malherbe et al., Light from the Gentiles: Hellenistic Philosophy and Early Christianity: Collected Essays of Abraham J (2014) 107
maximus of tyre Malherbe et al., Light from the Gentiles: Hellenistic Philosophy and Early Christianity: Collected Essays of Abraham J (2014) 107
musonius Malherbe et al., Light from the Gentiles: Hellenistic Philosophy and Early Christianity: Collected Essays of Abraham J (2014) 107
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paul Malherbe et al., Light from the Gentiles: Hellenistic Philosophy and Early Christianity: Collected Essays of Abraham J (2014) 107
physical description, use of diatribe' Malherbe et al., Light from the Gentiles: Hellenistic Philosophy and Early Christianity: Collected Essays of Abraham J (2014) 107
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teles Malherbe et al., Light from the Gentiles: Hellenistic Philosophy and Early Christianity: Collected Essays of Abraham J (2014) 107