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Aristophanes, The Women Celebrating The Thesmophoria, 102-129
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Λατώ τε κρούματά τ' ̓ΑσιάδοςAGATHON: ... and Leto and the tones of the Asiatic lyre, which wed so well with the dances of the Phrygian Graces. CHORUS: I do honour to the divine Leto and to the lyre, the mother of songs of male and noble strains. The eyes of the goddess sparkle while listening to our enthusiastic chants. Honour to the powerful Phoebus! Hail! thou blessed son of Leto! MNESILOCHUS: Oh! ye venerable Genetyllides, what tender and voluptuous songs! They surpass the most lascivious kisses in sweetness; I feel a thrill of delight pass up my rectum as I listen to them. Young man, whoever you are, answer my questions, which I am borrowing from Aeschylus' 'Lycurgeia.' Whence comes this effeminate? What is his country? his dress? What contradictions his life shows! A lyre and a hair-net! A wrestling school oil flask and a girdle! What could be more contradictory? What relation has a mirror to a sword? And you yourself, who are you? Do you pretend to be a man? Where is the sign of your manhood, your penis, pray? Where is the cloak, the footgear that belong to that sex? Are you a woman? Then where are your breasts? Answer me. But you keep silent. Oh! just as you choose; your songs display your character quite sufficiently. AGATHON: Old man, old man, I hear the shafts of jealousy whistling by my ears, but they do not hit me. My dress is in harmony with my thoughts. A poet must adopt the nature of his characters. Thus, if he is placing women on the stage, he must contract all their habits in his own person. MNESILOCHUS: Then you ride the high horse when you are composing a Phaedra. AGATHON: If the heroes are men, everything in him will be manly. What we don't possess by nature, we must acquire by imitation. MNESILOCHUS: When you are staging Satyrs, call me; I will do my best to help you from behind with standing tool. AGATHON: Besides, it is bad taste for a poet to be coarse and hairy. Look at the famous Ibycus, at Anacreon of Teos, and at Alcaeus, who handled music so well; they wore headbands and found pleasure in the lascivious dances of Ionia. And have you not heard what a dandy Phrynichus was and how careful in his dress? For this reason his pieces were also beautiful, for the works of a poet are copied from himself. MNESILOCHUS: Ah! so it is for this reason that Philocles, who is so hideous, writes hideous pieces; Xenocles, who is malicious, malicious ones, and Theognis, who is cold, such cold ones? AGATHON: Yes, necessarily and unavoidably; and 'tis because I knew this that I have so well cared for my person.
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Intertexts (texts cited often on the same page as the searched text):

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1. Anacreon, Fragments, 388 (6th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

2. Anacreon, Fragments, 388 (6th cent. BCE - 5th cent. BCE)

3. Aristophanes, Clouds, 596-606, 595 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

595. ἀμφί μοι αὖτε Φοῖβ' ἄναξ
4. Aristophanes, Peace, 43-48, 835-840, 871-875, 889-895, 929-934, 976, 143 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

143. τὸ δὲ πλοῖον ἔσται Ναξιουργὴς κάνθαρος.
5. Aristophanes, Frogs, 1310-1323, 1309 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

1309. ἀλκυόνες, αἳ παρ' ἀενάοις θαλάσσης
6. Aristophanes, The Women Celebrating The Thesmophoria, 101, 103-152, 157-170, 177-268, 39-100 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

100. μύρμηκος ἀτραπούς, ἢ τί διαμινύρεται;
7. Thucydides, The History of The Peloponnesian War, 2.38.2 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

2.38.2. while the magnitude of our city draws the produce of the world into our harbor, so that to the Athenian the fruits of other countries are as familiar a luxury as those of his own.


Subjects of this text:

subject book bibliographic info
acropolis (of athens) Capra and Floridi, Intervisuality: New Approaches to Greek Literature (2023) 136
actors/acting, tragoidos Liapis and Petrides, Greek Tragedy After the Fifth Century: A Survey from ca (2019) 207
aegean sea, floating configuration of islands in Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
aeschylus Capra and Floridi, Intervisuality: New Approaches to Greek Literature (2023) 136
age-class, age-set Humphreys, Kinship in Ancient Athens: An Anthropological Analysis (2018) 436
alkibiades Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
anacreon vases Capra and Floridi, Intervisuality: New Approaches to Greek Literature (2023) 136
apollo delios/dalios (delos) Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
aristophanes Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
artemon Capra and Floridi, Intervisuality: New Approaches to Greek Literature (2023) 136
athenian empire, and local identities Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
athenian empire, as myth-ritual network Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
athenian empire, as theoric worshipping group Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
athenian empire, ionian policies Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
athenian empire Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
barbitos Capra and Floridi, Intervisuality: New Approaches to Greek Literature (2023) 136
beard Humphreys, Kinship in Ancient Athens: An Anthropological Analysis (2018) 436
catchment area, of cults, constant (re)forging of Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
choregia, and community building Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
choreography, tragic Liapis and Petrides, Greek Tragedy After the Fifth Century: A Survey from ca (2019) 207
chorodidaskaloi/hypodidaskaloi Liapis and Petrides, Greek Tragedy After the Fifth Century: A Survey from ca (2019) 207
chorus, khoros, athenian empire as Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
chorus, khoros, flexible metaphor Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
chorus, khoros, of islands Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
clarity Gianvittorio-Ungar and Schlapbach, Choreonarratives: Dancing Stories in Greek and Roman Antiquity and Beyond (2021) 9
comedy, on marriage Hubbard, A Companion to Greek and Roman Sexualities (2014) 373
comedy, on women Hubbard, A Companion to Greek and Roman Sexualities (2014) 373
community, religious, not identical with political Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
concept, in old comedy Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
cyrene, dance, in drama Liapis and Petrides, Greek Tragedy After the Fifth Century: A Survey from ca (2019) 207
dance, mimetic Gianvittorio-Ungar and Schlapbach, Choreonarratives: Dancing Stories in Greek and Roman Antiquity and Beyond (2021) 9
defending greeks and democracies, and thalassocracy Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
deme Humphreys, Kinship in Ancient Athens: An Anthropological Analysis (2018) 436
effeminates, effeminacy Gianvittorio-Ungar and Schlapbach, Choreonarratives: Dancing Stories in Greek and Roman Antiquity and Beyond (2021) 9
ethnic, stereotyping Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
euripides, never an actor Liapis and Petrides, Greek Tragedy After the Fifth Century: A Survey from ca (2019) 207
gymnasion Humphreys, Kinship in Ancient Athens: An Anthropological Analysis (2018) 436
homosexuality Humphreys, Kinship in Ancient Athens: An Anthropological Analysis (2018) 436
imperial Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
interpretation (exegetical) Gianvittorio-Ungar and Schlapbach, Choreonarratives: Dancing Stories in Greek and Roman Antiquity and Beyond (2021) 9
islands, in the aegean Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
nikias (athenian general), peace of Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
nikias (athenian general), theoria to delos Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
non-linear, relatedness in Gianvittorio-Ungar and Schlapbach, Choreonarratives: Dancing Stories in Greek and Roman Antiquity and Beyond (2021) 9
old tragedy Liapis and Petrides, Greek Tragedy After the Fifth Century: A Survey from ca (2019) 207
pantomime (tragoedia saltata, saltatio), universality of Gianvittorio-Ungar and Schlapbach, Choreonarratives: Dancing Stories in Greek and Roman Antiquity and Beyond (2021) 9
pantomime (tragoedia saltata, saltatio) Gianvittorio-Ungar and Schlapbach, Choreonarratives: Dancing Stories in Greek and Roman Antiquity and Beyond (2021) 9
peace, and religious activity Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
peloponnesian war, athens and delian theoria in Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
pericles Capra and Floridi, Intervisuality: New Approaches to Greek Literature (2023) 136
playwrights, comedy (greek), aristophanes Liapis and Petrides, Greek Tragedy After the Fifth Century: A Survey from ca (2019) 207
playwrights, tragedy (fifth century), agathon Liapis and Petrides, Greek Tragedy After the Fifth Century: A Survey from ca (2019) 207
poets, creativity in social contexts Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
simulation, embodied Gianvittorio-Ungar and Schlapbach, Choreonarratives: Dancing Stories in Greek and Roman Antiquity and Beyond (2021) 9
slaves Humphreys, Kinship in Ancient Athens: An Anthropological Analysis (2018) 436
song-culture, forum for debate of contemporary issues Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
sophocles, as actor Liapis and Petrides, Greek Tragedy After the Fifth Century: A Survey from ca (2019) 207
space, religious, malleable and constantly changing Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
symposium/symposia Capra and Floridi, Intervisuality: New Approaches to Greek Literature (2023) 136
theoria, and local identities Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
theoria, as economic network Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
theoria, choral polis-theoria Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
theoria, inter-state relations Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
theoria, personified Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
theoria, sense of community Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
tribute, to athens, blurring of religious and monetary in choral dance Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115
tribute, to athens, of real goods (economic)' Kowalzig, Singing for the Gods: Performances of Myth and Ritual in Archaic and Classical Greece (2007) 115