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Aristophanes, Frogs, 1421-1434
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οὐ χρὴ λέοντος σκύμνον ἐν πόλει τρέφεινAESCHYLUS: A lion's whelp should not be reared within the city. No doubt that's best; but if the lion has been reared, one must submit to his ways. DIONYSUS: Zeus Soter! this puzzles me greatly. The one is clever, the other clear and precise. Now each of you tell me your idea of the best way to save the State. EURIPIDES: If Cinesias were fitted to Cleocritus as a pair of wings, and the wind were to carry the two of them across the waves of the sea ... DIONYSUS: 'Twould be funny. But what is he driving at? EURIPIDES: ... they could throw vinegar into the eyes of the foe in the event of a sea-fight. But I know something else I want to tell you. DIONYSUS: Go on. EURIPIDES: When we put trust in what we mistrust and mistrust what we trust.... DIONYSUS: What? I don't understand. Tell us something less profound, but clearer. EURIPIDES: If we were to mistrust the citizens, whom we trust, and to employ those whom we today neglect, we should be saved. Nothing succeeds with us; very well then, let's do the opposite thing, and our deliverance will be assured. DIONYSUS: Very well spoken. You are the most ingenious of men, a true Palamedes! Is this fine idea your own or is it Cephisophon's?


>AESCHYLUS: A lion's whelp should not be reared within the city. No doubt that's best; but if the lion has been reared, one must submit to his ways. DIONYSUS: Zeus Soter! this puzzles me greatly. The one is clever, the other clear and precise. Now each of you tell me your idea of the best way to save the State. EURIPIDES: If Cinesias were fitted to Cleocritus as a pair of wings, and the wind were to carry the two of them across the waves of the sea ... DIONYSUS: 'Twould be funny. But what is he driving at? EURIPIDES: ... they could throw vinegar into the eyes of the foe in the event of a sea-fight. But I know something else I want to tell you. DIONYSUS: Go on. EURIPIDES: When we put trust in what we mistrust and mistrust what we trust.... DIONYSUS: What? I don't understand. Tell us something less profound, but clearer. EURIPIDES: If we were to mistrust the citizens, whom we trust, and to employ those whom we today neglect, we should be saved. Nothing succeeds with us; very well then, let's do the opposite thing, and our deliverance will be assured. DIONYSUS: Very well spoken. You are the most ingenious of men, a true Palamedes! Is this fine idea your own or is it Cephisophon's?
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1. Aristophanes, Birds, 988 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

988. μήτ' ἢν Λάμπων ᾖ μήτ' ἢν ὁ μέγας Διοπείθης.
2. Aristophanes, Knights, 1085 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

1085. ἐς τὴν χεῖρ' ὀρθῶς ᾐνίξατο τὴν Διοπείθους.
3. Aristophanes, Frogs, 1419-1420, 1422-1434, 675-705, 710, 718-733, 1418 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

1418. ἐγὼ κατῆλθον ἐπὶ ποιητήν. τοῦ χάριν;
4. Aristophanes, Wasps, 380 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

380. δήσας σαυτὸν καὶ τὴν ψυχὴν ἐμπλησάμενος Διοπείθους.
5. Xenophon, Hellenica, 1.4.1-1.4.7 (5th cent. BCE - 4th cent. BCE)

1.4.1. As for Pharnabazus and the ambassadors, while they were spending the winter at Gordium, in Phrygia, they heard what had happened at Byzantium. 1.4.2. But as they were continuing their journey to the 407 B.C. King, at the opening of the spring, they met not only the Lacedaemonian ambassadors returning,—Boeotius and his colleagues and the messengers The reference is uncertain. besides, who reported that the Lacedaemonians had obtained from the King everything they wanted,— 1.4.3. but also Cyrus, who had come in order to be ruler of all the peoples on the coast and to support the Lacedaemonians in the war. This Cyrus brought with 407 B.C. him a letter, addressed to all the dwellers upon the sea i.e. the maritime provinces of Asia Minor, as contrasted with the interior of the Persian Empire. and bearing the King’s seal, which contained among other things these words: I send down Cyrus as caranus The word caranus means lord . of those whose mustering-place is Castolus. 1.4.4. When the Athenian ambassadors heard all this and saw Cyrus, they wished, if it were possible, to make their journey to the King, but otherwise to return home. 1.4.5. Cyrus, however, directed Pharnabazus either to give the ambassadors into his charge, or at any rate not to let them go home as yet, for he wished the Athenians not to know of what was going on. 1.4.6. Pharnabazus, accordingly, in order that Cyrus might not censure him, detained the ambassadors for a time, now saying that he would conduct them to the King, and again, that he would let them go home; 1.4.7. but when three years had passed, he requested Cyrus to release them, on the plea that he had given his oath to conduct them back to the coast, since he could not take them to the King. So they sent the ambassadors to Ariobarzanes and directed him to escort them on; and he conducted them to Cius, in Mysia, whence they set sail to join the Athenian army.
6. Plutarch, Agesilaus, 3.1-3.5, 14.2 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

7. Plutarch, Alcibiades, 36-37, 35 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

8. Plutarch, Lysander, 18.4, 22.3-22.6 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

9. Plutarch, Pericles, 32.1 (1st cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)

32.1. About this time also Aspasia was put on trial for impiety, Hermippus the comic poet being her prosecutor, who alleged further against her that she received free-born women into a place of assignation for Pericles. And Diopeithes brought in a bill providing for the public impeachment of such as did not believe in gods, or who taught doctrines regarding the heavens, directing suspicion against Pericles by means of Anaxagoras.
10. Pausanias, Description of Greece, 3.12.10 (2nd cent. CE - 2nd cent. CE)



Subjects of this text:

subject book bibliographic info
aeschylus, in frogs Major, The Court of Comedy: Aristophanes, Rhetoric, and Democracy in Fifth-Century Athens(2013) 176
agathon Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
agon, of frogs Major, The Court of Comedy: Aristophanes, Rhetoric, and Democracy in Fifth-Century Athens(2013) 176
alcibiades, and mother of the gods Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
alcibiades Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
antheus Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
archelaus of macedon Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
aristophanes, frogs Major, The Court of Comedy: Aristophanes, Rhetoric, and Democracy in Fifth-Century Athens(2013) 176; Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
artaxerxes ii Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
athens and athenians, and religious authority Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
athens and athenians, attitudes of, toward asiatics Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
athens and athenians, in peloponnesian war era Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
cartledge, paul Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
cyrus the younger Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
darius ii Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
dionysus (frogs) Major, The Court of Comedy: Aristophanes, Rhetoric, and Democracy in Fifth-Century Athens(2013) 176
diopeithes Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
euripides, bacchae Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
euripides, in frogs Major, The Court of Comedy: Aristophanes, Rhetoric, and Democracy in Fifth-Century Athens(2013) 176
euripides, in macedon Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
euripides, language and style of Major, The Court of Comedy: Aristophanes, Rhetoric, and Democracy in Fifth-Century Athens(2013) 176
euripides, superficial appeal of Major, The Court of Comedy: Aristophanes, Rhetoric, and Democracy in Fifth-Century Athens(2013) 176
euripides, unpopularity of Major, The Court of Comedy: Aristophanes, Rhetoric, and Democracy in Fifth-Century Athens(2013) 176
herodotus, on sovereignty Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
kingship, spartan Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
language, of euripides Major, The Court of Comedy: Aristophanes, Rhetoric, and Democracy in Fifth-Century Athens(2013) 176
lysander Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
miletus and milesians Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
mother of the gods, and athens Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
mother of the gods, and warfare Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
mother of the gods, in attic drama Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
palamedes, euripides as Major, The Court of Comedy: Aristophanes, Rhetoric, and Democracy in Fifth-Century Athens(2013) 176
persia and persians, treaties with greeks Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
sparta and spartans, and persia Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
timotheus of miletus Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341
tragedy, and civic identity' Major, The Court of Comedy: Aristophanes, Rhetoric, and Democracy in Fifth-Century Athens(2013) 176
xenophon of athens, on persians Munn, The Mother of the Gods, Athens, and the Tyranny of Asia: A Study of Sovereignty in Ancient Religion (2006) 341